Re: Any suggestions for a MTA for a new admin?

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:34:53 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt
<tedmtoybox.placo.com> wrote:

> 
> Sendmail, of course.
> 
> Postfix and qmail and the others were written by people
> aiming to simplify the MTA because they either couldn't
> understand Sendmail or were too lazy to do so.  Or they
> were catering to people like this.
> 
> Sendmail was written by a huge crew of people along the
way
> as they came across weird mail handling issues that
they
> needed to solve.  As a result it is extremely flexible
and
> can be used to do anything imaginable.  As a result of
this
> there are naturally far more switches to set.  However,
most
> of these switches are set in a default position that
you
> would normally never change.
> 
> If you are serious about handling mail vs just playing
> around with a mailserver in your home or something,
then
> sooner or later, sure as atomic decay, your going to
run
> into a problem in mail handling that you may swear that
> is the stupidest thing imaginable and why would anyone
ever
> want to do it - but your going to have to do it.  With
> Sendmail it is just a matter of toggling a few
switches.
> With the other ones it's a matter of going into weird
contortions
> and gryrations to get them to do weird things, if they
can
> do it at all.
> 
> If you were to modify qmail to do all the things
Sendmail
> can do, you would have a result just as complex as
Sendmail.
> Same goes for the rest of them.  So, the configuration
complexity
> of Sendmail, far from being a detriment as some other
people
> have inferred, is in reality exactly what you want in
an MTA.
> And keep in mind that the Sendmail people have worked
out
> schemes to greatly simplify that complexity, for at
least for
> typical types of scenarios, using prewritten templates.
> 
> Ted
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org
> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tom Norris
> >Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:40 PM
> >To: freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org
> >Subject: Any suggestions for a MTA for a new admin?
> >
> >
> >I have finally made the jump from paying people to
host my websites to
> >doing it myself (setting up apache, perl, php,
postgresql, and all that
> >fun stuff.)  Now I want to migrate my e-mail
addresses over to
> >a FreeBSD
> >4.11 machine that lives in a data center.  Can any
of you recommend a
> >good MTA (and maybe a book) for someone that knows
relatively
> >few things
> >about the big scary world of e-mail transport?
> >
> >Just to throw it out there, one of the things I
need to do is to have
> >the MTA route mail for a few different domains that
are pointed towards
> >the machine on different ip addresses.  Is that
possible?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Tom Norris

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Friday, August 12, 2005 6:08:58 PM

I agree that Sendmail can be configured to do virtually
anything,
assuming that you can find the documentation for what you
want to do. It
took me quite awhile to find out how to change the ports
that Sendmail
uses to both send and receive mail on. The O'Reilly
'Sendmail' book is
nothing more than a poor man's 'Cliff's Notes" in that
regards. Postfix
is far easier to configure.

I personally have Sendmail installed; however, I have seen
Postfix used
quite extensively. I would be interested in knowing exactly
what it is
that Ted feels Sendmail can accomplish that Postfix cannot?
In addition,
I am now in the process of trying to figure out how to get
VERP to work
with Sendmail. That feature is built into Qmail, and can be
easily
configured into Postfix.

Just my 2¢ worth.

-- 
Gerard E. Seibert
gerard-seibertsuscom.net

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I have used sendmail some, postfix to its limits, and
currently am
using courier-mta.  I'm using courier because it is an all
in one
solution for webmail, mta, pop3, and imap.  It also easilly
does mail
services for multiple domains with a number of configurable
backends
(filesystem, database, etc...)

I really don't know which one is best.  I liked sendmail and
postfix
alot.  courier-mta fit all my needs at the time though...

Having said that, it was a HUGE undertaking to set it up
because it
was an all in one solution with many parts.  However, I
finally got it
done, and seldom have to touch it for anything now.

Aaron
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Aaron Peterson <dopplecodergmail.com> wrote:
| I have used sendmail some, postfix to its limits, and
currently am
| using courier-mta.  I'm using courier because it is an all
in one
| solution for webmail, mta, pop3, and imap.  It also
easilly does mail
| services for multiple domains with a number of
configurable backends
| (filesystem, database, etc...)
| 
| I really don't know which one is best.  I liked sendmail
and postfix
| alot.  courier-mta fit all my needs at the time though...
| 
| Having said that, it was a HUGE undertaking to set it up
because it
| was an all in one solution with many parts.  However, I
finally got it
| done, and seldom have to touch it for anything now.
| 
Postfix, but take a look at 'linnet' (all in one).


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