Bind within src-contrib

This looks and sounds like a question, so I've changed the
cc: appropriately... if you reply, make sure and remove
"advocacy" in the event it appears....


Frank Laszlo wrote:

>
> Joshua Bell wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  I was attempting to build a minimal supfile, when
I noticed that
>> bind was included within contrib.  This to me seems
like something
>> that should be included within the ports tree, or
atleast be included
>> in a portion of the tree with less crucial
software.
>>

"Less crucial" being what, exactly --- the docs or
manpages? Certainly
wouldn't move to games, now would it?  

>>  I personally do not see a reason for this, but
please enlighten me on
>> why this is done.
>>
>> -Josh
>>  
>
>
> How would you like a system with no host(1), dig(1), or
nslookup(1)? I
> personally consider these tools essential for a freebsd
system.


Second that.  In my eXPerience, the lack of these tools on
another
well-known OS is just reason++ not to use it if at all
possible....

Now, I'm no "hat", nor even a committer, just a
user of the OS, so
include standard disclaimer, etc., but my take is:

The "reason for this" is because we want FreeBSD
to be able to
create a working server "out of the box".  So, we
have ftpd, named,
Sendmail, all of the "small servers" running out
of inetd... possibly
an interesting read would be the history of why there's no
"stock"
httpd or dhcpd--- I would imagine that Apache's established
reputation
had something to do with it in httpd's case, or maybe its
portability
or outstanding flexibility, but can't even begin to really
know anything
about that from personal experience.  I suppose it's notated
in the
mail archives or the CVS repo somewhere....

And, *all* the stuff under src/contrib comes from
"outside", so to speak.
So, none of it "belongs" in FreeBSD, per se.  But
it's imported especially
for use in FreeBSD.  In that line of thought, I don't
suppose we really
*need* bzip2, either --- we could always just use
compress(1).  But,
if we remove BIND, needed to run a nameserver, shouldn't we
take
out Sendmail, too, as it's needed to run a mailserver (Out
of the box,
that is...).

Better yet, we could strip it down to just a kernel, and
just let everyone
install their own tools, like from GNU, or wherever....

Wait!  That's already been done ... 

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
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