Can't see FreeBSD machine in Mac's Finder

You have to run netatalk and howl, both are in the ports. 
Then your
FreeBSD machine will show in Finder like any other Mac
server.

Ted

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>To: freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org
>Subject: Re: Can't see FreeBSD machine in Mac's Finder
>
>
>Thanks for the reply, Per.
>I understand what you're saying, but will a FreeBSD
machine show up in
>Finder under any circumstances?
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Unfortunately is OS X not so good when it comes to
NFS.
>> To make your FreeBSD box talk either AFP or SMB
solves your
>problem. If
>> you have something against that you could try NFS
Manager.
>> http://www
.bresink.com/osx/NFSManager.html
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Per Johnson
>>
>> Charles Howse wrote:
>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>> I have a PowerMac G5, named "larry",
which the 'Sharing' tab
>in System
>>> Preferences tells me that other machines on the
network can access as
>>> 'larry.local'.
>>>
>>> I have a FreeBSD 4.11 machine on the same
subnet, named
>"moe" (no domain
>>> name), with NFS enabled.
>>>
>>> I can connect to the FreeBSD machine's share by
using
>"Connect to Server" in
>>> OS X, but the machine doesn't show up in the
Network pane of Finder.
>>>
>>> Can anyone point me to some resources where I
can find a
>resolution to this?
>
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>Charles 
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On Oct 17, 2005, at 10:19 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

>
> You have to run netatalk and howl, both are in the
ports.  Then your
> FreeBSD machine will show in Finder like any other Mac
server.

You only need to run netatalk if you want to offer afp
shares from  
FreeBSD.  If you just want nfs then the howl thing should
get it to  
show in the finder.

Chad

>
> Ted
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charles  
>> Howse
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:18 AM
>> To: freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: Can't see FreeBSD machine in Mac's
Finder
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the reply, Per.
>> I understand what you're saying, but will a FreeBSD
machine show  
>> up in
>> Finder under any circumstances?
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Unfortunately is OS X not so good when it comes
to NFS.
>>> To make your FreeBSD box talk either AFP or SMB
solves your
>>>
>> problem. If
>>
>>> you have something against that you could try
NFS Manager.
>>> http://www
.bresink.com/osx/NFSManager.html
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Per Johnson
>>>
>>> Charles Howse wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello List,
>>>>
>>>> I have a PowerMac G5, named
"larry", which the 'Sharing' tab
>>>>
>> in System
>>
>>>> Preferences tells me that other machines on
the network can  
>>>> access as
>>>> 'larry.local'.
>>>>
>>>> I have a FreeBSD 4.11 machine on the same
subnet, named
>>>>
>> "moe" (no domain
>>
>>>> name), with NFS enabled.
>>>>
>>>> I can connect to the FreeBSD machine's
share by using
>>>>
>> "Connect to Server" in
>>
>>>> OS X, but the machine doesn't show up in
the Network pane of  
>>>> Finder.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone point me to some resources where
I can find a
>>>>
>> resolution to this?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Charles
>> Mac OS X Tiger
>>
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Chad
>Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:57 PM
>To: questions questions
>Subject: Re: Can't see FreeBSD machine in Mac's Finder
>
>
>
>On Oct 17, 2005, at 10:19 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>>
>> You have to run netatalk and howl, both are in the
ports.  Then your
>> FreeBSD machine will show in Finder like any other
Mac server.
>
>You only need to run netatalk if you want to offer afp
shares from
>FreeBSD.  If you just want nfs then the howl thing
should get it to
>show in the finder.
>

Right, but a lot of Mac files still use that awful
resource/data fork
thing
that some idiot at Apple dreamed up and that isn't supported
under NFS
that I'm aware.

Ted

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At 03:30 Tue 18 Oct 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
> Right, but a lot of Mac files still use that awful
resource/data fork
> thing
> that some idiot at Apple dreamed up and that isn't
supported under NFS
> that I'm aware.

Oh, how I loathe those resource forks.  I've been
experimenting
with these resource forks a lot lately (why? a long, boring,
and
pitiful tale), and I'm happy to report that the Mac actually
_does_ seem to preserve the resource forks over NFS.  If I
copy a
file called "file" with a resource fork over NFS
to the file
server it also copies over a file called "._file"
which seems to
contain all that nice metadata.

Still, I don't trust it.

Lee

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Ah, then when the user 'cleans up' all those dot files from
her Windows
box that happens to be mounting the same volume exported via
Samba,
they become unusable! 

Ted

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>Subject: Re: Can't see FreeBSD machine in Mac's Finder
>
>
>At 03:30 Tue 18 Oct 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>> Right, but a lot of Mac files still use that awful
resource/data fork
>> thing
>> that some idiot at Apple dreamed up and that isn't
supported under NFS
>> that I'm aware.
>
>Oh, how I loathe those resource forks.  I've been
experimenting
>with these resource forks a lot lately (why? a long,
boring, and
>pitiful tale), and I'm happy to report that the Mac
actually
>_does_ seem to preserve the resource forks over NFS.  If
I copy a
>file called "file" with a resource fork over
NFS to the file
>server it also copies over a file called
"._file" which seems to
>contain all that nice metadata.
>
>Still, I don't trust it.
>
>Lee
>
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On Oct 18, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

>
> Ah, then when the user 'cleans up' all those dot files
from her  
> Windows
> box that happens to be mounting the same volume
exported via Samba,
> they become unusable! 

Not usually.  meta data in resource forks is supposed to be
non  
essential data (window positions, etc).  If they are using
the stuff  
cross platform they probably won't have resource forks in
the first  
place or can survive without them.

In practice it is not a problem for most people.  And on OS
X most  
apps do not create resource forked files anyway

Chad

>
> Ted
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questionsfreebsd.org]On Behalf Of Lee Capps
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:25 AM
>> To: questions questions
>> Subject: Re: Can't see FreeBSD machine in Mac's
Finder
>>
>>
>> At 03:30 Tue 18 Oct 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Right, but a lot of Mac files still use that
awful resource/data  
>>> fork
>>> thing
>>> that some idiot at Apple dreamed up and that
isn't supported  
>>> under NFS
>>> that I'm aware.
>>>
>>
>> Oh, how I loathe those resource forks.  I've been
experimenting
>> with these resource forks a lot lately (why? a
long, boring, and
>> pitiful tale), and I'm happy to report that the Mac
actually
>> _does_ seem to preserve the resource forks over
NFS.  If I copy a
>> file called "file" with a resource fork
over NFS to the file
>> server it also copies over a file called
"._file" which seems to
>> contain all that nice metadata.
>>
>> Still, I don't trust it.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> --
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>> Technology Specialist
>> CTE Resource Center
>>
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At 16:30 Tue 18 Oct 2005, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
> 
> On Oct 18, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> >
> >Ah, then when the user 'cleans up' all those dot
files from her  
> >Windows
> >box that happens to be mounting the same volume
exported via Samba,
> >they become unusable! 
> 
> Not usually.  meta data in resource forks is supposed
to be non  
> essential data (window positions, etc).  If they are
using the stuff  
> cross platform they probably won't have resource forks
in the first  
> place or can survive without them.
> 
> In practice it is not a problem for most people.  And
on OS X most  
> apps do not create resource forked files anyway
> 

Okay, this is getting pretty OT, but just let me say--don't
lose
the resource fork to a Mac Quicken file.  I don't know
what's in
there, but it's more than the window positions and the color
of
the file.  But you're right--most of the time it is no
longer an
issue.  We just happen to have tons of legacy Mac files.

Lee

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