Preparing an Oracle Database XE port/package -- any tips ?

Hi,

  After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1]
installation (with Linux
32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a
production FreeBSD
6.2machine I realized it would be very much feasible to
produce a
FreeBSD
port/package for it.
  I would like to know whether similar efforts have been
undergoing and
whether people came up with some tips & tricks on this.

 The goal is not only to add the port into FreeBSD's ports
tree but also to
eventually convince Oracle (I work for them) to post the
package on their
official download page.

[1] http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/databa
se/xe/index.html

Thank you for your time and help,
Adrian Penisoara
ROFUG / EnterpriseBSD
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Quoting Adrian Penisoara <adyfreebsd.ady.ro> (from
Fri, 7 Mar 2008  
16:36:56 +0200):

> Hi,
>
>   After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1]
installation (with Linux
> 32bit binaries from the official RPM package) on a
production FreeBSD
> 6.2machine I realized it would be very much feasible to
produce a
> FreeBSD
> port/package for it.
>   I would like to know whether similar efforts have
been undergoing and
> whether people came up with some tips & tricks on
this.
>
>  The goal is not only to add the port into FreeBSD's
ports tree but also to
> eventually convince Oracle (I work for them) to post
the package on their
> official download page.

I'm not aware of something like this. Feel free to ask
questions  
regarding the linuxulator and our linux infrastructure in
the ports on  
emulation. Also feel free to ask for review of the port on
emulation.

Bye,
Alexander.

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On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:14:15 +0100
Alexander Leidinger <AlexanderLeidinger.net> wrote:

> Quoting Adrian Penisoara <adyfreebsd.ady.ro> (from
Fri, 7 Mar 2008  
> 16:36:56 +0200):
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >   After having to deploy an Oracle Database XE [1]
installation
> > (with Linux 32bit binaries from the official RPM
package) on a
> > production FreeBSD 6.2machine I realized it would
be very much
> > feasible to produce a FreeBSD
> > port/package for it.
> >   I would like to know whether similar efforts
have been undergoing
> > and whether people came up with some tips &
tricks on this.
> >
> >  The goal is not only to add the port into
FreeBSD's ports tree but
> > also to eventually convince Oracle (I work for
them) to post the
> > package on their official download page.
> 
> I'm not aware of something like this. Feel free to ask
questions  
> regarding the linuxulator and our linux infrastructure
in the ports
> on emulation. Also feel free to ask for review of the
port on
> emulation.

I've worked on such a port (probably that's what ady is
referring to)
but kinda' lost my interest in it ($REALLIFE got in the
way).

I'll try to find it (it was about 80% done) but I'm not sure
it
survived the clean-up sessions of my tmp/work dir (I don't
know why I
didn't ci it in our cvs ...).

I'll work with Ady if he need help.

Ady, BTW, after we have the port and, with some test cases
provided by
people that run it, can we hope for any kind of
(semi-)official
support ?


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Hi,

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu
<itetcufreebsd.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:14:15 +0100
> Alexander Leidinger <AlexanderLeidinger.net> wrote:
>
> > Quoting Adrian Penisoara <adyfreebsd.ady.ro> (from Fri, 7 Mar 2008
> > 16:36:56 +0200):
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >   After having to deploy an Oracle Database
XE [1] installation
> > > (with Linux 32bit binaries from the official
RPM package) on a
> > > production FreeBSD 6.2machine I realized it
would be very much
> > > feasible to produce a FreeBSD
> > > port/package for it.
> > >   I would like to know whether similar
efforts have been undergoing
> > > and whether people came up with some tips
& tricks on this.
> > >
> > >  The goal is not only to add the port into
FreeBSD's ports tree but
> > > also to eventually convince Oracle (I work
for them) to post the
> > > package on their official download page.
> >
> > I'm not aware of something like this. Feel free to
ask questions
> > regarding the linuxulator and our linux
infrastructure in the ports
> > on emulation. Also feel free to ask for review of the
port on
> > emulation.
>
> I've worked on such a port (probably that's what ady is
referring to)
> but kinda' lost my interest in it ($REALLIFE got in the
way).
>
> I'll try to find it (it was about 80% done) but I'm not
sure it
> survived the clean-up sessions of my tmp/work dir (I
don't know why I
> didn't ci it in our cvs ...).
>
> I'll work with Ady if he need help.
>
> Ady, BTW, after we have the port and, with some test
cases provided by
> people that run it, can we hope for any kind of
(semi-)official
> support ?
>

Not so fast (TM) .

1). I am talking about the Oracle XE package for which
Oracle does not offer
any commercial support (except for Forum discussions).

2). Usually everything comes down to business cases and
business
opportunities. So I think we will need to demonstrate a
large userbase in
order to get attention. I think we should be happy if an
Oracle XE FreeBSD
package will make it onto the downloads page in the first
place.

3) Oracle EE / SE editions are indeed the big guns on the
enterprise
database market, but until there are some more steps. And
Oracle does not
use a packaging format for these, OUI (Oracle Universal
Installer) is the
designated tool to use.

Note: The above represent solely my personal opinions, I do
not speak on
behalf of my employer (Oracle).

Regards,
Adrian Penisoara
ROFUG / EnterpriseBSD.
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:22:02 +0200
"Adrian Penisoara" <adyfreebsd.ady.ro> wrote:

 [ .. ]

> > Ady, BTW, after we have the port and, with some
test cases provided
> > by people that run it, can we hope for any kind of
(semi-)official
> > support ?
> >  
> 
> Not so fast (TM) .
> 
> 1). I am talking about the Oracle XE package for which
Oracle does
> not offer any commercial support (except for Forum
discussions).
> 
> 2). Usually everything comes down to business cases and
business
> opportunities. So I think we will need to demonstrate a
large
> userbase in order to get attention. I think we should
be happy if an
> Oracle XE FreeBSD package will make it onto the
downloads page in the
> first place.

Yep, this is what I was thinking about for the beginning at
least.

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Hi,

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Marcin Cieslak
<sapersystem.pl> wrote:

> Adrian Penisoara wrote:
> > 2). Usually everything comes down to business
cases and business
> > opportunities. So I think we will need to
demonstrate a large userbase
> in
> > order to get attention. I think we should be happy
if an Oracle XE
> FreeBSD
> > package will make it onto the downloads page in
the first place.
>
> I can give you one business case:
>
> During election observation mission in 2007 an Oracle
XE installation
> I've had (just for test) on my FreeBSD notebook saved
my (election) day
> and allowed me to analyze and verify election results -
and this is a
> Big Thing(tm).


Well, this sort of stories really ought to be told and heard
around. Have
you considered writing a short story or even a news article
on this topic (I
guess there are good places where you could submit it) ?


>
>
> > 3) Oracle EE / SE editions are indeed the big guns
on the enterprise
> > database market, but until there are some more
steps. And Oracle does
> not
> > use a packaging format for these, OUI (Oracle
Universal Installer) is
> the
> > designated tool to use.
>
> OUI is difficult to run, it's usually easier to setup a
database without
> it. Fortunately XE does not need one at all. There are
scripts out there
> that perform database creation end-to-end and I think
they should be
> included in the port.
>
>
Right. I will be extracting the RPM specs file to form the
package
installation script.
I'm not sure whether the debian scripts have something
better.

Regards,
Adrian Penisoara
ROFUG / EnterpriseBSD
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