Re: FreeBSD 7.0 SATA Controller

On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 11:53:04PM -0400, Shaun Sabo wrote:
> the livefs cds do not drop you into a shell. they drop
you into the same
> screen you see when you insert an installation cd. try
it on qemu or another
> virtualization program or even boot one up if you have
a spare cd rom. in
> order to access the livefs shell you need to navigate
to the fixit menu and
> then go to the livefs CD/DVD option.

Please explain where you obtained said "livefs"
CD.  Every livefs CD I've
tried (in qemu) has dropped me to a shell.  Every
"fixit" CD I've tried
brings me to sysinstall and from there I drop to the shell
after navigating
the menus.

> as for the apic vc acpi that was a typo
> due to exhaustion, sorry bout that.

Sure, but which one do you mean?  I assume you mean booting
with or without
ACPI, which is an option in the boot loader.

> > > motherboard so i couldnt even boot the debian
installer cd. i also tried
> > > booting the freebsd installer disks without
apic but the same problem
> > occurs
> > > so i dont think its hanging because of the
power managment.

ACPI isn't just power management-- it's advanced
_configuration_ and power
interface.  My understanding is that if present, FreeBSD
talks to the ACPI
on the BIOS to allocate IRQs and other resources.  There
have been bugs in
the past when dealing with ACPI which caused the FreeBSD
devs to include a
boot option to disable it.  If your system breaks w/o ACPI,
then there's
certainly a BIOS firmware problem.

Have you tried the following test?  Cold boot (from power
off) to FreeBSD
CD, disable ACPI from the menu, boot the kernel, then do a
warm reboot and
see if the problem exists.  My sense is that if your first
attempt from a
cold start has ACPI enabled, the problem will persist for
every subsequent
warm reboot.

-- Rick C. Petty
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the livefs cd links are
7.0-RELEASE
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/7.0/7.0-RE
LEASE-i386-livefs.iso
7-STABLE
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/200804/7.0-STABL
E-200804-i386-livefs.iso
i tried these in vmware and on another computer and neither
one drops me
into a shell. they both put me in the sysinstall program and
i have to
activate the livefs from the fixit menu then go to virtual
terminal 4
(alt+f4). problem is i cant get the livefs shell to start on
my system.
works fine in vmware, qemu, and my sisters computer so i
know there isnt
something wrong with the cds.

Im really not too concerned about the bios bug. i just
figured it might be a
side effect of freebsd not being able access the disks. just
out of
curiosity though, before i upgrade 6.2 to 7.0 again, what is
the atpic
device supposed to do?

as for not being able to mount any media from any freebsd
7.0  system. this
includes when i rebuilt the kernel and world from 6.2 to 7.0
with the
generic kernel. when i tried booting it was not able to find
the root
partition. the install and livefs cds can also not find the
hard disks nor
can you use the livefs utilities as stated above.

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Rick C. Petty <
rick-freebsdkiwi-computer.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 11:53:04PM -0400, Shaun Sabo
wrote:
> > the livefs cds do not drop you into a shell. they
drop you into the same
> > screen you see when you insert an installation cd.
try it on qemu or
> another
> > virtualization program or even boot one up if you
have a spare cd rom.
> in
> > order to access the livefs shell you need to
navigate to the fixit menu
> and
> > then go to the livefs CD/DVD option.
>
> Please explain where you obtained said
"livefs" CD.  Every livefs CD I've
> tried (in qemu) has dropped me to a shell.  Every
"fixit" CD I've tried
> brings me to sysinstall and from there I drop to the
shell after
> navigating
> the menus.
>
> > as for the apic vc acpi that was a typo
> > due to exhaustion, sorry bout that.
>
> Sure, but which one do you mean?  I assume you mean
booting with or
> without
> ACPI, which is an option in the boot loader.
>
> > > > motherboard so i couldnt even boot the
debian installer cd. i also
> tried
> > > > booting the freebsd installer disks
without apic but the same
> problem
> > > occurs
> > > > so i dont think its hanging because of
the power managment.
>
> ACPI isn't just power management-- it's advanced
_configuration_ and power
> interface.  My understanding is that if present,
FreeBSD talks to the ACPI
> on the BIOS to allocate IRQs and other resources. 
There have been bugs in
> the past when dealing with ACPI which caused the
FreeBSD devs to include a
> boot option to disable it.  If your system breaks w/o
ACPI, then there's
> certainly a BIOS firmware problem.
>
> Have you tried the following test?  Cold boot (from
power off) to FreeBSD
> CD, disable ACPI from the menu, boot the kernel, then
do a warm reboot and
> see if the problem exists.  My sense is that if your
first attempt from a
> cold start has ACPI enabled, the problem will persist
for every subsequent
> warm reboot.
>
> -- Rick C. Petty
>
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