What am I doing wrong here?

Hi all,

Sorry for the bad subject, but I really couldn't think of
any better one.

The following puzzles me (in gst):
st> 'a/b' indexOf: '/' ifAbsent: ['ABSENT'
printNl]!
'ABSENT'
'ABSENT'

What am I doing wrong here?

(I am just a beginner, so any kind of awnser is welcome)

Greetings,
  Bram

PS Does anybody know of (or own) a windows port of GNU
Smalltalk with
gtk support?


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Bram Neijt wrote:
> The following puzzles me (in gst):
> st> 'a/b' indexOf: '/' ifAbsent: ['ABSENT'
printNl]!
> 'ABSENT'
> 'ABSENT'

Here is the doc for (String whichClassIncludesSelector:
#indexOf:ifAbsent >>
#indexOf:ifAbsent:

indexOf: anElement ifAbsent: exceptionBlock
     Answer the index of the first occurrence of anElement
in the
     receiver.  Invoke exceptionBlock and answer its result
if no item
     is found

Now, ask yourself, what does "anElement" mean in
the context of
Strings?  Hint: the element '/' is in fact *not* present
in the String
'a/b'.  Also look around SequenceableCollection's
'basic' methods for
the method that does what you expect here.

-- 
Stephen Compall
http://scompall.no
candysw.com/blog


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Stephen Compall wrote:
> Bram Neijt wrote:
> 
>>The following puzzles me (in gst):
>>st> 'a/b' indexOf: '/' ifAbsent: ['ABSENT'
printNl]!
>>'ABSENT'
>>'ABSENT'
> 
> 
> Here is the doc for (String whichClassIncludesSelector:
> #indexOf:ifAbsent >>
#indexOf:ifAbsent:
> 
> indexOf: anElement ifAbsent: exceptionBlock
>      Answer the index of the first occurrence of
anElement in the
>      receiver.  Invoke exceptionBlock and answer its
result if no item
>      is found
> 
> Now, ask yourself, what does "anElement"
mean in the context of
> Strings?  Hint: the element '/' is in fact *not*
present in the String
> 'a/b'.  Also look around SequenceableCollection's
'basic' methods for
> the method that does what you expect here.

I'm replying in more detail because (a) this isn't the
finest part of
the class library (b) you used the word
"element", which I think might
be a little confusing.

Bram, the method #indexOf:ifAbsent: comes from
SequenceableCollection. A
String is a Collection of Characters, but '/' is not a
Character (it is
also a String), so '/' is not an element of 'a/b', nor
of any String.

What you wanted was either:

'a/b' indexOf: $/ ifAbsent: [ 'ABSENT' printNl ]!

or

'a/b' indexOf: '/' matchCase: true startingAt: 1

or

'a/b' indexOfSubCollection: '/'

I said this wasn't the finest part of the class library,
because (a) you
might reasonably expect #indexOf:ifAbsent: and
#indexOf:matchCase:startingAt: to be variations on a theme,
and they're
not; and (b) they're all pretty wordy when all you're
wanting to do is
some string wrangling.

My advice, if you are working a lot with strings, is to add
a method
like this:

CharacterArray methodsFor: 'syntactic sugar'!

% aSubString
	^self indexOfSubCollection: aSubString
! !

Now you have:

st> 'a/b' % '/' !
2

which saves a lot of typing.

Regards,

Mike


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> I said this wasn't the finest part of the class
library, because (a) you
> might reasonably expect #indexOf:ifAbsent: and
> #indexOf:matchCase:startingAt: to be variations on a
theme, and they're
> not; and (b) they're all pretty wordy when all you're
wanting to do is
> some string wrangling.
>   
Yeah, I remember thinking about the same when I ported this
from IBM 
Smalltalk.  Which makes me think it's now exactly 10 years
I've been 
working on GNU Smalltalk.  Wow.
> My advice, if you are working a lot with strings, is to
add a method
> like this:
>
> CharacterArray methodsFor: 'syntactic sugar'!
>
> % aSubString
> 	^self indexOfSubCollection: aSubString
> ! !
>
> Now you have:
>
> st> 'a/b' % '/' !
> 2
>   
While I agree entirely with you, why the "%"?
:-P

Paolo


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Hi all,

First of, thanks to Stephen, Mike and Paolo for their both
quick and
full replies to my question.

Having done some further reading into aString, I got the
whole picture
and actually quite like the whole collection/element
splitting of
functions. Although having a special notation might help, I
think
redablility helps even more.

Be sure, your awnsers won't go undocumented. Appart from
the online
access to this mailing list, I'm trying to write some
documentation
while I learn smalltalk at smalltalk.infosnel.nl. As soon as
it is
(almost) fully done, I'll post a message. If you have
comments on
that, you can mail me personally.

Greetings,
  Bram


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Hi all,

First of, thanks to Stephen, Mike and Paolo for their both
quick and
full replies to my question.

Having done some further reading into aString, I got the
whole picture
and actually quite like the whole collection/element
splitting of
functions. Although having a special notation might help, I
think
redablility helps even more.

Be sure, your awnsers won't go undocumented. Appart from
the online
access to this mailing list, I'm trying to write some
documentation
while I learn smalltalk at smalltalk.infosnel.nl. As soon as
it is
(almost) fully done, I'll post a message. If you have
comments on
that, you can mail me personally.

Greetings,
  Bram


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Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
>> I said this wasn't the finest part of the class
library, because (a) you
>> might reasonably expect #indexOf:ifAbsent: and
>> #indexOf:matchCase:startingAt: to be variations on
a theme, and they're
>> not; and (b) they're all pretty wordy when all
you're wanting to do is
>> some string wrangling.
>>   
> 
> Yeah, I remember thinking about the same when I ported
this from IBM
> Smalltalk.  Which makes me think it's now exactly 10
years I've been
> working on GNU Smalltalk.  Wow.

Congratulations, I think.

*dons party hat*

>> My advice, if you are working a lot with strings,
is to add a method
>> like this:
>>
>> CharacterArray methodsFor: 'syntactic sugar'!
>>
>> % aSubString
>>     ^self indexOfSubCollection: aSubString
>> ! !
>>
>> Now you have:
>>
>> st> 'a/b' % '/' !
>> 2
>>   
> 
> While I agree entirely with you, why the
"%"? :-P

I was looking for a binary selector. I seriously considered
?
but
settled on % because it suggests modulo division... this
made sense at
the time :-I

'Interesting' choice of selectors aside, it's really the
ease of doing
this that I was trying to draw attention to.

Mike



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