Newbie compile/usage question for 2.95a

Hi there,

I've been bitten by the Smalltalk bug and was really
impressed with the
version that came with Ubuntu Linux. I'm trying to compile
2.95a with
gtk blox support. I do a:

./configure --enable-gtk=blox

and get no errors configuring or building - but where is the
binary for
the gui? I see no blox-gtk, blox-gst or anything else. I
really do need
a gui environment as I am a complete smalltalk beginner.

TIA,

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Paul Furber wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I've been bitten by the Smalltalk bug and was really
impressed with the
> version that came with Ubuntu Linux. I'm trying to
compile 2.95a with
> gtk blox support. I do a:
> 
> ./configure --enable-gtk=blox
> 
> and get no errors configuring or building - but where
is the binary for
> the gui? I see no blox-gtk, blox-gst or anything else.
I really do need
> a gui environment as I am a complete smalltalk
beginner.

The configure option is just --enable-gtk; the command to
start the 
browser is

gst -qK browser/Run.st


Probably, Ubuntu is bundling a blox-gst script to start it,
or something 
like that.  (Anybody can confirm?)

Paolo


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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:59:55PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini
wrote:
> Paul Furber wrote:
> >Hi there,
> >
> >I've been bitten by the Smalltalk bug and was
really impressed with the
> >version that came with Ubuntu Linux. I'm trying to
compile 2.95a with
> >gtk blox support. I do a:
> >
> >./configure --enable-gtk=blox
> >
> >and get no errors configuring or building - but
where is the binary for
> >the gui? I see no blox-gtk, blox-gst or anything
else. I really do need
> >a gui environment as I am a complete smalltalk
beginner.
> 
> The configure option is just --enable-gtk; the command
to start the 
> browser is
> 
> gst -qK browser/Run.st
> 
> 
> Probably, Ubuntu is bundling a blox-gst script to start
it, or something 
> like that.  (Anybody can confirm?)

Indeed,

Ubuntu version has a /usr/bin/gst-blox shell wrapper that
launches:
  gst -qgK browser/Run.st


Regards,

Thomas


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On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:15:25AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini
wrote:
> >>Probably, Ubuntu is bundling a blox-gst script
to start it, or something 
> >>like that.  (Anybody can confirm?)
> >
> >Indeed,
> >
> >Ubuntu version has a /usr/bin/gst-blox shell
wrapper that launches:
> >  gst -qgK browser/Run.st
> 
> Would it be useful to add a
> 
> #! bindir/gst -qgf
> 
> header to browser/Run.st and install it as gst-blox?

Is there a new `-f' option in GNU Smalltalk? I can't find
it, so I can't
check whether it would work.

Thomas


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>> #! bindir/gst -qgf
>>
>> header to browser/Run.st and install it as
gst-blox?
> 
> Is there a new `-f' option in GNU Smalltalk? I can't
find it, so I can't
> check whether it would work.

It's been there since 2.3.

   gst -f FILE ARGS

is the same as

   gst FILE -a ARGS

In practice, "-a" is almost never used in
practice.  It is used 
internally by Smalltalk images, which have "#!
/usr/bin/env gst -aI" in 
their first line.

Paolo


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On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:12:53PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini
wrote:
> 
> >>#! bindir/gst -qgf
> >>
> >>header to browser/Run.st and install it as
gst-blox?
> >
> >Is there a new `-f' option in GNU Smalltalk? I
can't find it, so I can't
> >check whether it would work.
> 
> It's been there since 2.3.

[...]

Right, sorry. `-f' option is available.

I can confirm that using the shebang above and copying
browser/Run.st to
/usr/bin/gst-blox works.

> In practice, "-a" is almost never used in
practice.  It is used 
> internally by Smalltalk images, which have "#!
/usr/bin/env gst -aI" in 
> their first line.

It reminds me of a patch (attached) I apply to GNU Smalltalk
for Debian
package because the shebang in the image does not work. I
was told that
what is behind the shebang is passed as a single argument.

The following snippet illustrate this. On my Debian
GNU/Linux box:

  memymachine$ cat shebang1
  #! /bin/echo -e
  memymachine$ ./shebang1
  ./shebang1
  memymachine$ ./shebang1 whatever
  ./shebang1 whatever
  memymachine$ cat shebang2
  #! /bin/echo -e whatever
  memymachine$ ./shebang2
  -e whatever ./shebang2

That is, /bin/echo from shebang2 receives '-e whatever' as
first argument.
Hence /usr/bin/env receives `gst -aI...' and fails. With the
patch,
executing gst.im works.

The patch is crude because it hardcodes the path to gst, I
guess it could be
modified to use automake variable and work in all
cases; but then we'll need
to check if dummy[64] is not exceeded.

Regards,

Thomas

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On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 19:47 +0200, Thomas Girard wrote:
> The patch is crude because it hardcodes the path to
gst, I guess it could be
> modified to use automake variable and work in all
cases; but then we'll need
> to check if dummy[64] is not exceeded.

See examples/shell or (gst.info)Invocation:: 's words on the
-f option
for an alternative to this.

-- 
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candysw.com/blog **
Failure to imagine vast possibilities usually stems from a
lack of
imagination, not a lack of possibility.

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