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Re: Open Source software and OpenSolaris. What is the deal?
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2007-05-06 20:23:14
On Fri, 4 May 2007, Brian Gupta wrote:
> Eric Boutilier wrote:
>> 
>> Discussions around this general topic interest me a
great deal, and this
>> iteration of it adds _some_ new context I think.
However the best way for
>> me to give my perspective here is to point to the
previous iteration of
>> this topic that Mike Kupfer just pointed to. That
is, my views remain
>> pretty much the same. In particular, as summed up
mostly by this post:
>> 
>> 
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.s
olaris.opensolaris.general/18953/focus=19022
>> 
>> But also by other parts of that discussion.
>
> ... Please respond to my 6 points...


I've been away, and just now getting caught up...

Regarding your 6 points, the following gets my +1:

http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/sf
wnv-discuss/2007-May/000394.html

As do the comments by other JDS, SFW, and CCD contributors
that 
have been made about your 6 points, namely (from what I can

tell): Comay, Kupfer, Teleman, Duvall, and Christensen.

It seems to me there's been an excellent converging of
philosophies 
taking place recently between the SFW/CCD consolidation and
the 
JDS consolidation. So what I'm trying to say is that
convergence is 
where my sentiments are eagerly headed.

Eric
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Re: Open Source software and OpenSolaris. What is the deal?
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2007-05-07 10:00:24
On 5/6/07, Eric Boutilier <Eric.Boutiliersun.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 May 2007, Brian Gupta wrote:
> > Eric Boutilier wrote:
> >>
> >> Discussions around this general topic interest
me a great deal, and this
> >> iteration of it adds _some_ new context I
think. However the best way for
> >> me to give my perspective here is to point to
the previous iteration of
> >> this topic that Mike Kupfer just pointed to.
That is, my views remain
> >> pretty much the same. In particular, as summed
up mostly by this post:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.s
olaris.opensolaris.general/18953/focus=19022
> >>
> >> But also by other parts of that discussion.
> >
> > ... Please respond to my 6 points...
>
>
> I've been away, and just now getting caught up...
>
> Regarding your 6 points, the following gets my +1:
>
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/sf
wnv-discuss/2007-May/000394.html
>
> As do the comments by other JDS, SFW, and CCD
contributors that
> have been made about your 6 points, namely (from what I
can
> tell): Comay, Kupfer, Teleman, Duvall, and
Christensen.
>
> It seems to me there's been an excellent converging of
philosophies
> taking place recently between the SFW/CCD consolidation
and the
> JDS consolidation. So what I'm trying to say is that
convergence is
> where my sentiments are eagerly headed.

A couple of notes regarding the post you linked to.

The repository should make not make a distinction between
what is and
isn't in Solaris. This repository should eventually contain
everything
this would be useful to install on a OpenSolaris distro.
(Including
everything that is currently part of "Solaris" and
Open Sourced). (We
just need to make sure the dependency metadata is
accurate.)

I understand the work to include all of Open/Solaris is
probably best
delayed, but we need to include all packages that are
external open
source packages, which might rely on a mega package ON-bxx.
This will
open the door for the various opensolaris distributions to
share the
repository, and allow someone to create their own distro,
just by
picking a set of packages from the repository. (I would also
include
source packages for those distros that want to change path
info.)

As for GNU maintainers making Solaris packages. I think you
would be
surprises by the willingness of individual maintains that
want to see
widespread adoption of their packages. (Maybe to Sun this
isn't so
important, but adding these packages just adds to the
completeness of
the repository, and those packages will be mroe liekly to be
kept up
to date.)

And yes, I think more fine grained packages are also needed.
For
example in my VIM proposal, I have laid out the concept of
having
multiple packages for a single version of VIM:

1) GUI-less vim binaries
2) gvim binaries
3) Individual language support packages, for each language
we wish to support.
4) etc.

-Brian
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