Re: Was GNUstep ready for GNUstep ?

Le 07-04-29 à 00:58, Yen-Ju Chen a écrit :

> On 4/28/07, Wolfgang Sourdeau <wsourdeauinverse.ca> wrote:
>> I don't see how keeping some variables around would
not have been
>> possible. Even by noting them as
"deprecated" and waiting for a few
>> more release before removing them. That's always
the case during an
>> intelligent migration process.
"GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DIR" is probably
>> a variable which was possible to keep and that most
modules are
>> counting on...
>>
>> Maybe the goals that were targetted are valid.
Maybe they were  
>> reached
>> correctly. But it's also important to think about
the people who
>> depend on such a package before causing so much
incompatibility.
>> Unless you can prove that keeping things compatible
would harm the
>> intended process, I consider that way of doing
things as stupid.
>
>  For old applications, they will break one way or
another.
>  If it is not by gnustep-make, it will be by others
later.
>  The "2.0" release of gnustep-make is a good
indication of major  
> changes,
>  otherwise, it will be 1.14 as gnustep-base.
>  While I am not an official figure to say so,
>  most major updates usually break old application, like
GTK-2.0,  
> Lucene 2.0,
>  Ruby 2.0 (not yet), etc.
>  Usually the 1.9.x release are the last one for
backward  
> compatibility.
>  I think it is better to ask project maintainers to
update for
> gnustep-make 2.0.

I realise that I was not clear enough about something, my
frustration  
was not aimed at core gnustep developers, but rather at
everyone else  
who should have seen 2.0 coming.  I mean,
GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DIR  
was deprecated long before.

I came to think of gnome.  Gnome is many projects but there
is a very  
clear line between what is supposed to work when a release
comes out  
and what is something that just depends on gnome.  etoile is
indeed a  
solution because it is putting up together a vision of what
the  
GNUstep desktop should be, so there is no way not to be sure
here.

yves



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