Russell wrote:
> It has been so long since I have touched the Codex,
much less
> Wikipedia, that I do not remember how they do them or
how I
> had suggested we do them.
Great to hear from you Russell!
> I just looked over some of the discussion we had before
and
> it seems we had agreed to drop the idea of using
namespaces
> because turning them on at this late point in the game
would
> ruin all of our current work. Namespaces would have
allowed
> us to do more specific searching of only Gallery #,
etc, but
> turning them on now would make all current wiki pages
with
> the namespace's prefix inaccessible.
Before we bury namespaces, let's have a short discussion or
at least a vote
about it on Thursday during the docs meeting.
I think it doesn't matter if namespaces mask current
content.
- I think searching limited to a specific namespace is too
useful to just
drop it
And to fix the problems:
- Current content would be relocated before
- Search will find the existing pages
- That leaves existing links as the only problem. We could
submit a new
sitemap to Google and update all internal links.
That sounds like some work though.
How bad is the namespace issue anyway?
And couldn't we use namespace names that have nearly no
conflicts with
existing content?
E.g. "G2", "G1", "GR", or just
using underscores / dashes / whatever to get
no conflicts. Or very long namespace names like
"Gallery_2_Area".
If you guys feel this has been discussed too much already,
- Andy
> Instead we had decided to prefix our categories with
the base
> project (Gallery
> #) and then add just specific subcategories to that. We
would
> try to use only one category prefix unless multiple
> categories with the name end-name applied to different
> sub-categories. For example:
> Gallery # evelopme
nt
> Included page example: Coding standard, Coding
guidelines,
> etc Gallery #evelopme
nt:Themes
> Included page example: How to develop a theme,
theme.inc
> basics, etc Gallery #:Themes
> Included page example: Matrix, Floatrix, etc
>
> We had started work on categorizing the pages using
this
> system so we should be able to look to the existing
system
> for how to continue doing it.
>
> There were several ideas on how to deal with categories
and
> what-not. One thing that was mentioned was the idea of
adding
> badges to each page to indicate which version of
gallery that
> page applies to. Another idea was to put the category
> inclusion text in a template so that we could add other
text
> to each page or easily change the category name for all
those
> pages. I think we had decided the category templates
was too
> much work, and we never got around to designing a badge
template.
>
> - Zimzat
>
> Andy Staudacher wrote:
> > Moving discussion to -docs.
> >
> >  Meeting:
> > Thursday 9 PM CET (Noon PST), would that work for
you?
> >
> > MediaWiki specifics:
> > Is zimzat still around? He seems to have
investigated these things.
> >
> > - Andy
> >
> > Christian Mohn wrote:
> >> See inline comments.
> >> Andy Staudacher wrote:
> >>> One of the larger tasks of the Gallery
project is
> reorganization of
> >>> the codex and since there have been so
many discussions
> >> over the last
> >>> year, I felt it was time to create a
document that shows
> >> exactly what
> >>> has been agreed on and what still needs to
be discussed.
> >>>
> >>> This is the result:
> >>> http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Codex:Reorganization
> >> Thank you, you did a tremendous job gathering
all the email
> >> discussions there.
> >>
> >>> Let me highlight 2 sections:
> >>> 1. The new Main Page
> >>> http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Codex:Reor
ganization#Main_Page
> >>> (there's a pretty good agreement on this,
please comment)
> >>
> >> That seems to be a pretty good set of
top-level links, as
> I've noted
> >> before.
> >> Having a "Getting Started" section
there would also be a
> good idea,
> >> it could link to a new "landing"
page with links to basic
> >> installation and administration tasks.
> >>
> >>> 2. What's left to do?
> >>> http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Codex:Reorganiz
ation#TODO
> >>>
> >>> So one of the most visible things, the new
main page of the
> >> codex, is
> >>> almost there.
> >>> All we need is to have a final vote in a
meeting.
> >> We should have a meeting. The normal meeting
time on
> thursdays is not
> >> good for me, if we could do it a few hours
later than that
> i'd be all
> >> set.
> >>
> >>> I hope this document helps to keep an
overview of the
> whole topic.
> >>> It's the result of going through emails
from the last
> >>> 12 months and I hope I have collected
both, all noteworthy
> >> opinions as
> >>> well as the latest alternatives that have
been agreed on.
> >>>
> >>> I have no intention to take the lead of
the codex reorg task.
> >>> But if there is noone else, I will try to
harass people to move
> >>> forward in small steps.
> >>> And in that spirit...
> >> My biggest "concern" right now is my
own lack of understanding how
> >> Mediawiki categories/namespaces work. I can't
seem to get a proper
> >> grasp on how that is supposed to work and
subsequently
> don't really
> >> understand how we should organize the content
after a
> >> category/namespace domain has been settled. If
someone on the list
> >> has some pointers/input on how Mediawiki works
in that
> regard, please
> >> speak up.
> >>
> >> Christian
> >
> >
> >
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