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2007-06-27 09:03:53 |
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Hello,
I notice that, when I enter my root password in kdesu and tick "keep password", it only works for this specific application. But, with other applications, it asks again for the password.
It looks like Windows Vista and its continuous "confirmation screens" 
Is it possible that kdesu stores the root password for the current KDE session and for all the applications?
(I wouldn';t like to use the password wallet, for my needs this application is not a good idea because I want to have the passwords fresh in my memory ).
Thank you,
David
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| Re: kdesu: store password for ALL
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Germany |
2007-06-27 09:39:18 |
Hi David,
> Is it possible that kdesu stores the root password for
the current KDE
> session and for all the applications?
this would be like working as root - and nobody wants to do
that.
Why do you have so many programs that you have to run as
root? Did you have a
look at sudo?
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2007-06-27 13:33:28 |
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this would be like working as root - and nobody wants to do that.
I do not agree. If I start, say, firefox, I am not working as root. And, if I launch synaptic, I am already aware that I am working as root with synaptic.
Gnome has this capability, of storing the root password for all the applications during the session.
Why do you have so many programs that you have to run as root?
I somewhat agree here. But, if I launch firestarter, synaptic and a konsole as root, why enter the root password three times? I am already aware that I am working as root with those programmes.
Did you have a
look at sudo?
I use Debian, so I do su . I really do not understand why Ubuntu prefers sudo before su
Thank you,
David
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| Re: kdesu: store password for ALL
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Bulgaria |
2007-07-02 02:11:30 |
On Wednesday 27 June 2007 21:33:28 David wrote:
> Did you have a
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> > look at sudo?
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> I use Debian, so I do su . I really do not understand
why Ubuntu prefers
> sudo before su
Because sudo is smarter. A thing I recently learned from a
friend of mine is
never log in as root, because sooner or later mistakes
happen. sudo helps
here a lot, because you log in as your normal user (in case
of a gui, start
the normal konsole) and then use sudo only for the commands
you need to. sudo
can cache your password for a set time and the you'll need
to type it just
once. Typing sudo before each superuser command reminds you
of what you are
doing and helps preventing unpleasant situations. This is
especially true
when administering something bigger and more important than
a desktop PC, but
deleting by mistake system files on a desktop PC can still
be a thrustrating
experience
Synaptic is not something you start 5 times in 5 minutes so
I don't see how it
can greatly benefit from the root password being cached. The
same would apply
for the firewall interface. Do you reconfigure the firewall
so often?
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2007-07-02 10:45:27 |
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Synaptic is not something you start 5 times in 5 minutes so I don't see how it
can greatly benefit from the root password being cached. The same would apply
for the firewall interface. Do you reconfigure the firewall so often?
I mean exactly the other way round.
If I started synaptic 5 times in a session, kdesu would not ask me for the password (if I had checked "keep password").
But, regarding the frequent situation: first launch the firewall, then synaptic, and then a Konsole as root, I have to enter the password three times in a minute
That is why I find this behaviour illogical: within the same application, the password is chached, but if you run another application, you have to reintroduce the password.
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