Have apps on root window or disable window decoration?

Hi KDE users,

I want to have a simple analog clock on my root window of
every
desktop.  I don't want it to appear on my task bar.

I can think of three possibilities.

1) Run a clock application on the root window.

  Good.  But I don't know if such a thing is possible.

2) Use a dashboard- (Mac OS X) or Desklet- (Gnome) like
capability.

  OK.  But I don't know if KDE has such a capability or
  if there are such applications.

3) Disable the window decoration of xlock (or any clock
application).

  Simple and good.  But, I don't quite know how to do this.

3.1) kstart --type Dock --alldesktops xclock

  Almost there.  No window decoration.  But, there's an
entry in
  the task bar.

3.2) kstart --skiptaskbar --type Dock --alldesktops xclock

  --skiptaskbar overrides --type Dock.  So, there's window
decoration.

3.3) ksystraycmd xclock

  I don't know how to put xclock on all the desktops or
  how to disable the window decoration.

Thank you for your attention,

Ryo
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On Tuesday 16 May 2006 14:54, Ryo Furue wrote:
> 2) Use a dashboard- (Mac OS X) or Desklet- (Gnome) like
capability.
>   OK.  But I don't know if KDE has such a capability
or
>   if there are such applications.

KDE has such a functionality called SuperKaramba.
You will find some clock themes here:
http://www.kde-look
.org/content/search.php?page=2&search=1&type=38&
name=&user=&text=clock&sort=0&scorefilter=0&
amp;licence=99

Cheers,

-- 
Yann Bodson
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Op dinsdag 16 mei 2006 06:54, schreef Ryo Furue:

Hi,

> Hi KDE users,
>
> I want to have a simple analog clock on my root window
of every
> desktop.  I don't want it to appear on my task bar.

Another way is to use window specific rules:

1) Open the application you want to show on your desktop
(xclock for example)
2) Right click a title bar and choose Configure Window
Behaviour.
3) Select the Window Specific Settings section
4) Create a new rule
5) Press the detect button and click on the xclock window.
Now you're going to 
define settings for that specific window
6) In the tab Preferences:
	a. Set Keep Below to Force (and don't forget the check
behind the combo!)
	b. Set No border to Force (check as well)
	c. Maybe some more preferences
7) OK, OK. Done

You can move the xclock around by holding Alt + the left
mouse button while 
dragging.

Hope this helps as well.

Kind regards,

-- 
Bram Schoenmakers
KDE Netherlands (www.kde.nl)

KBoggle - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26195
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Hi,

Yann Bodson said:
| > 2) Use a dashboard- (Mac OS X) or Desklet- (Gnome)
like
| > capability.
| >   OK.  But I don't know if KDE has such a capability
or
| >   if there are such applications.
| 
| KDE has such a functionality called SuperKaramba.

Great!  I found SuperKaramba quite useful and *promising*.
I mean, unfortunately, some SuperKaramba applets aren't
as mature as one wishes.  The analog clock which look best
to me consumes half of the CPU cycles!  (and this bug
has already been reported.)  Another problem to me is that
the whole idea of this type of system (including the
Dashboard
and Desklet systems) leans toward *fancy* and fancy-looking
applets.  I'm not against all eye-candy stuff, but I'd
like
some applications to remain "unfancy".  For
example, compare
the good old xclock with beautiful-looking clocks for
Karamba.
The latter are beautiful for sure, but I want my analog
clock
to be perfectly unobtrusive, so I definitely prefer the look
of xlock.  Well, I don't mean to discourage people.  As I
said,
the SuperKaramba system seems to be a great framework.
I might even try to create my own clock for SuperKaramba.

Bram Schoenmakers said:

| > I want to have a simple analog clock on my root
window of every
| > desktop.  I don't want it to appear on my task bar.
| 
| Another way is to use window specific rules:
| 
| 1) Open the application you want to show on your desktop
(xclock for
|    example)
| 2) Right click a title bar and choose Configure Window
Behaviour.
| 3) Select the Window Specific Settings section
| 4) Create a new rule
| 5) Press the detect button and click on the xclock window.
Now
|    you're going to define settings for that specific
window
| 6) In the tab Preferences:
| 	a. Set Keep Below to Force (and don't forget the check
behind
|          the combo!)
| 	b. Set No border to Force (check as well)
| 	c. Maybe some more preferences
| 7) OK, OK. Done

Thanks for the info!  Unfortunately, I have no idea as to
why, but
this method doesn't work for me.  I let the dialogue
"detect" xclock
by clicking on an xclock window.  "xclock
XClock" appears on the box,
indicating xclock was successfully detected.  I then set
"Keep Below"
to "Force", "Skip Task Bar" to
"Force", etc., an did OK, Apply, and
OK. But, my xlock remains on the task bar, it goes over
other windows,
etc.  In short, it remains unchanged as far as I can tell.
I tried this process three times.  Once on my Debian Linux
box at my
office, and twice on my other box at home, to no avail.  
Hm. . . .

Regards,
Ryo
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Op woensdag 17 mei 2006 13:47, schreef Ryo Furue:

Hi,

> Thanks for the info!  Unfortunately, I have no idea as
to why, but
> this method doesn't work for me.  I let the dialogue
"detect" xclock
> by clicking on an xclock window.  "xclock
XClock" appears on the box,
> indicating xclock was successfully detected.  I then
set "Keep Below"
> to "Force", "Skip Task Bar" to
"Force", etc., an did OK, Apply, and
> OK. But, my xlock remains on the task bar, it goes over
other windows,
> etc.  In short, it remains unchanged as far as I can
tell.
> I tried this process three times.  Once on my Debian
Linux box at my
> office, and twice on my other box at home, to no avail.
  Hm. . . .

When you 'detect' the clock, you should choose the option
Use Window Class 
(whole application).

Kind regards,

-- 
Bram Schoenmakers

What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind.
(Punch, 1855)
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Hi Bram,

| When you 'detect' the clock, you should choose the
option Use Window
| Class (whole application).

It's really strange that that doesn't work, either.
For you, what happens if you specify "Skip Task
Bar"
and "Keep Below".  Does the window stay below
all the
windows and does it disappear from your task bar?

| What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind.
| (Punch, 1855)

Sounds very much like the 19th century.  Science was
advancing at an unprecedented speed and people began
to wonder what's the relation between material and mind.

Cheers,
Ryo
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Op donderdag 18 mei 2006 12:28, schreef Ryo Furue:
> Hi Bram,
>
> | When you 'detect' the clock, you should choose the
option Use Window
> | Class (whole application).
>
> It's really strange that that doesn't work, either.
> For you, what happens if you specify "Skip Task
Bar"
> and "Keep Below".  Does the window stay
below all the
> windows and does it disappear from your task bar?

Yes, it does (however, it still hovers *above* the desktop
icons). Did you 
really check the checkbox right of the combobox specifying
"Force"?

Kind regards,

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Bram Schoenmakers
KDE Netherlands (www.kde.nl)

Jabber - bramkde.org
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Hi,

| > | When you 'detect' the clock, you should choose
the option Use Window
| > | Class (whole application).
| >
| > It's really strange that that doesn't work, either.
| > For you, what happens if you specify "Skip Task
Bar"
| > and "Keep Below".  Does the window stay
below all the
| > windows and does it disappear from your task bar?
| 
| Yes, it does (however, it still hovers *above* the desktop
| icons). Did you really check the checkbox right of the
combobox
| specifying "Force"?

Yes.  I'm quite positive.  I tried once again just now. 
This
time I used "plan" (an old calendar program for
X Window).
I "detected" the window and checked the
"Use window class (whole
application)" and pressed "OK".  I visited
the "Preferences" tab,
checked the checkbox for "Skip Task Bar", and
selected "Force"
of the combobox on the right.  I pressed "OK",
"Apply", and "OK".
I still see the "plan" in my task bar.  I
repeated this cycle and
saw no change.

Is it possible that I'm using an old version of KDE?
I'm using the testing distribution of Debian GNU/Linux.
KDE consists of many Debian packages, so I don't know which
represents the version of KDE as a whole.  The package named
"kde" says "Version: 5:45", whatever
it means.
(I've never seen a colon in a version number!)

Best regards,
Ryo
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Op vrijdag 19 mei 2006 22:32, schreef Ryo Furue:

Hi,

> Yes.  I'm quite positive.  I tried once again just
now.  This
> time I used "plan" (an old calendar program
for X Window).
> I "detected" the window and checked the
"Use window class (whole
> application)" and pressed "OK".  I
visited the "Preferences" tab,
> checked the checkbox for "Skip Task Bar",
and selected "Force"
> of the combobox on the right.  I pressed
"OK", "Apply", and "OK".
> I still see the "plan" in my task bar.  I
repeated this cycle and
> saw no change.
>
> Is it possible that I'm using an old version of KDE?
> I'm using the testing distribution of Debian
GNU/Linux.
> KDE consists of many Debian packages, so I don't know
which
> represents the version of KDE as a whole.  The package
named
> "kde" says "Version: 5:45",
whatever it means.
> (I've never seen a colon in a version number!)

I just noticed that the settings are not applied
immediately, but as soon as 
you restart the application.

Kind regards,

-- 
Bram Schoenmakers
KDE Netherlands (www.kde.nl)

KBoggle - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26195
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Hi, whenever transferring large files of 4GB~ and above,
either from 
FTP, or SMB (or possibly through other network modes also)
Konqueror is 
unable to count the amount of data being transfered and
either stops 
counting at 2GB~ with FTP, or in the case of Samba
transfers, it reports 
that 17 Million TB of Data has been transferred in the space
of only a 
few minutes - and then it again stops counting.

However when the file download has completed, the size of
the 
transferred file is normal.

Needless to say I don't have 17 million Terabytes of
storage - indeed i 
am lucky if i even have 200GB.

This was supposed to have been fixed in KDE 3.1 - but
apparently the bug 
is now back. Should i report it, or do the developers
already know about it?

GJ
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