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Re: buddy list minimizes automatically
user name
2007-03-06 17:58:28
On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin <charles.ackningmail.com> wrote:
> Then I guess it's fine. Plugin's name and description
are clear enough,
> aren't they?

You overestimate people. People make this exact complaint
regularly.
Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this
plugin, and
all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it because
they don't
know what "iconify" means, it's doing more harm
than good.

-s.

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Re: buddy list minimizes automatically
user name
2007-03-06 18:10:57
On 3/6/07, Sean Egan <seanegangmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin <charles.ackningmail.com> wrote:
> > Then I guess it's fine. Plugin's name and
description are clear enough,
> > aren't they?
>
> You overestimate people. People make this exact
complaint regularly.
> Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this
plugin, and
> all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it
because they don't
> know what "iconify" means, it's doing more
harm than good.
>
> -s.

I actually use the plugin.  However, i would not be against
it if you
decided to remove the plugin from the default gaim build. 
That is to
say, i would appreciate keeping the code around and current,
but
perhaps making it a --enable autoconf option.  Frankly, i
think the
plugin name and description should be enough to keep people
from
enabling it, but perhaps if people are being confused by the
name and
description, then the problem could be solved there through
renaming
and clarification rather than complete removal of the
plugin.

-2 pennies from me to you

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Re: buddy list minimizes automatically
country flaguser name
United States
2007-03-06 21:57:42
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 03:58:28PM -0800, Sean Egan wrote:
> On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin <charles.ackningmail.com> wrote:
> > Then I guess it's fine. Plugin's name and
description are clear enough,
> > aren't they?
> 
> You overestimate people. People make this exact
complaint regularly.
> Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this
plugin, and
> all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it
because they don't
> know what "iconify" means, it's doing more
harm than good.
> 
> -s.

This is exactly why we removed the hide-on-send plugin we
had some time
(some number of years ago now) ago.

luke

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Re: buddy list minimizes automatically
user name
2007-03-09 23:50:31
On 3/6/07, Sean Egan < seanegangmail.com">seanegangmail.com> wrote:
On 3/6/07, Charles Acknin < charles.ackningmail.com">charles.ackningmail.com> wrote:
>; Then I guess it's fine. Plugin';s name and description are clear enough,
&gt; aren't they?

You overestimate people. People make this exact complaint regularly.
Every couple of weeks. If nobody is actually using this plugin, and
all it's doing is confusing people who loaded it because they don't
know what "iconify" means, it's doing more harm than good.

Perhaps we need some way to remind people about such features. I'm not sure when we'd do it, maybe on upgrade. Or maybe have a menu item that pops up a dialog reminding you of the stupid things you did, and have clicking on said menu item in the bug reporting guide lines.

That may just cause people to complain about the reminders, and the same people who don't remember they turned on the Iconfy on Away plugin may also not read or follow bug submission guide lines.


--Tim
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