X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

   Hi,
I use AMD64 gentoo o my box and I experience problems with
keyboard  
switching. Namely it is impossible o switch with Shift-Shift
that is  
specified in xorg.conf and even worse, if I specify two
keyboards (czech  
and english) in xorg.conf it is impossible to switch to the
console. This  
results in the gnome start error saying that there could be
several souces  
of problems (xkb, X, libxklavier). I am not sure where the
problem could  
be. I tried to recompile everything connected to xkb and
Xorgand also  
different versions, but it persists. Fortunately setxkb
works, but I do  
not consider it to be satisfying. Could anyone advise? It
would be helpful  
also t point to some way of debugging as I have no idea.
   I attach my xorg.conf. My gcc is
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *, profile  
2006.1.

   Thanks for advices
   Lukas

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:04:08 +0200, Beso
<givemesugarrgmail.com> wrote:

> 2007/6/27, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>>
>>    Hi,
>> I use AMD64 gentoo o my box and I experience
problems with keyboard
>> switching. Namely it is impossible o switch with
Shift-Shift that is
>> specified in xorg.conf and even worse, if I specify
two keyboards (czech
>> and english) in xorg.conf it is impossible to
switch to the console.
>
>
> have you actually specified them also in the
make.conf?!?! if you don't
> specify them there you may have troubles.... try to
look at the use flags
> with whom you've compiled x (use euse for that)....

Hi, in my make.conf I have these INPUT_DEVICES and
VIDEO_CARDS
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse synaptics"
VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv v4l vesa"

My server is compiled with these USE FLAGs that I think
worked for me

x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3  USE="dri ipv6 nptl sdl
xorg xprint (-3dfx)  
-debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev
keyboard mouse  
synaptics -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc
-dynapro  
-elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick
-magellan  
-microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa
-tek4957 -ur98  
-vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia v4l
vesa -apm -ark -chips  
-cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128
(-i740) -i810  
(-impact) (-imstt) -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) (-nsc)
-r128 -radeon  
-rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb
(-sunbw2)  
(-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx)
-tdfx -tga  
-trident -tseng -vga -via -vmware -voodoo"

My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.

>
>
> This
>> results in the gnome start error saying that there
could be several  
>> souces
>> of problems (xkb, X, libxklavier). I am not sure
where the problem could
>> be. I tried to recompile everything connected to
xkb and Xorgand also
>> different versions, but it persists. Fortunately
setxkb works, but I do
>> not consider it to be satisfying. Could anyone
advise? It would be  
>> helpful
>> also t point to some way of debugging as I have no
idea.
>>    I attach my xorg.conf. My gcc is
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *, profile
>> 2006.1.
>
>
> have you actually done  a emerge --sync and  updated
world with the new
> packages version?!?! the 2006.1 is very old as 
packages and baselayout,
> which had some great changes....

Yes, I sync at least twice a week and I do emerge -upvDN
world &&  
revdep-rebuild. I considered 2006.1 to be somehow old, but I
was advised  
on #gentoo-amd64 not to leave it as the next one could be
still somehow  
experimental.

>
>    Thanks for advices
>>    Lukas
>>
>
>
>

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>> My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.
>
>
> you should install also the nvidia drivers and then
eselect the nvidia
> opengl instead of the xorg one, cause it's much more
performant....  
> follow
> the nvidia howtos on gentoo-wiki for that if you
haven't done it yet....

I did so and nvidia is correctly running.

> anyway this is only the xorg server package, not the  
> internationalizzation
> package which has the voices about the linguas.... for
me (kde user) is
> kde-base/kde-i18n which has various linguas
compiled....
well, I prefer gnome and fluxbox if performance neede. But
it was all  
running ok till some update, but I had not time to solve it
at that time.

> the absence of the
> voice "LINGUAS ="en cz"" may say
that it should have installed all the
> default languages.... if you're using some other window
manager than kde  
> you
> should search on which is the internazionalization
package on your
> windowmanager....

Oh, this is interesting, I thought, it should be "en
cs" that I am using.  
Sorry for being confusing, I will attach the make.conf. In
my mind, this  
isn't problem of window manager as gnome was running and it
has no  
localization package.

> but first i have forgotten of the x11-apps/setxkbmap
package which  
> controls
> the x keyb changer.... see if it's installed....
   Yes, it is, currenlty I use these packages perhaps
related to xkb
   [ I] x11-apps/setxkbmap (1.0.2):  Controls the keyboard
layout of a  
running X server.
   [ I] x11-apps/xkbcomp (1.0.3):  compile XKB keyboard
description
   [ I] x11-apps/xkbutils (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbutils
application
   [ I] x11-libs/libxkbfile (1.0.4):  X.Org xkbfile library
   [ I] x11-libs/libxkbui (1.0.2):  X.Org xkbui library
   [ I] x11-libs/libxklavier (3.1):  High level XKB library
   [ I] x11-misc/xkbdata (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbdata data
   [ I] x11-misc/xxkb (1.10):  eXtended XKB - assign
different keymaps to  
different windows
   [ I] x11-plugins/gkrellm-xkb (1.05):  XKB keyboard
switcher for gkrellm2

> it may be due to it that
> the system doesn't switch the keyb layout.... and
another thing, on kde,  
> you
> should first enable the shortcut on the kde admin
pannel....
  This is not afaik necessary in gnome.

>
>>
> then you're using the 2007 layout.... when you update
world you update  
> many
> system packages, as gcc, libtool or baselayout.... the
experimental  
> issue is
> only is you use the tilde packages, which are still
unstable.... you  
> should
> not use this as an universal keyword in make.conf, but
the packages that  
> you
> need and that are still under the unstable branch
should be put in the
> /etc/portage/package.keywords file.... if you're using
only stable packs  
> you
> will not have any issue due to experimental things....
at least for what  
> i
> know of it....

Well, sorry I should not say experimental but I was told
that there can be  
some problems on 2007.1, so I have not switched yet.
ls -l /etc/ | grep make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root        root       51 2007-05-06 14:42
make.profile ->  
..//usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1
Maybe it would be good idea to switch, if you have not
experienced any  
problems.

   Lukas

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:29:29 +0200, Beso
<givemesugarrgmail.com> wrote:

> 2007/6/29, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>>
>>
>> >> My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.
>> >
>> >
>> > you should install also the nvidia drivers and
then eselect the nvidia
>> > opengl instead of the xorg one, cause it's
much more performant....
>> > follow
>> > the nvidia howtos on gentoo-wiki for that if
you haven't done it  
>> yet....
>>
>> I did so and nvidia is correctly running.
>>
>> > anyway this is only the xorg server package,
not the
>> > internationalizzation
>> > package which has the voices about the
linguas.... for me (kde user)  
>> is
>> > kde-base/kde-i18n which has various linguas
compiled....
>> well, I prefer gnome and fluxbox if performance
neede. But it was all
>> running ok till some update, but I had not time to
solve it at that  
>> time.
>
>
> you'll need to look for that update and try to fix it
cause it may be  
> that
> one that is breaking you keyb layout....

You are righ, the problem is that I am not sure when did
this happenedand  
as I update quite often, I am not able to find it out.

>
>> the absence of the
>> > voice "LINGUAS ="en cz""
may say that it should have installed all the
>> > default languages.... if you're using some
other window manager than  
>> kde
>> > you
>> > should search on which is the
internazionalization package on your
>> > windowmanager....
>>
>> Oh, this is interesting, I thought, it should be
"en cs" that I am  
>> using.
>> Sorry for being confusing, I will attach the
make.conf. In my mind, this
>> isn't problem of window manager as gnome was
running and it has no
>> localization package.
>
>
> hold on a sec, i don't know if is cz or cs.... you
should look for you
> internazionalizzation settings....
>
>> but first i have forgotten of the
x11-apps/setxkbmap package which
>> > controls
>> > the x keyb changer.... see if it's
installed....
>>    Yes, it is, currenlty I use these packages
perhaps related to xkb
>>    [ I] x11-apps/setxkbmap (1.0.2):  Controls the
keyboard layout of a
>> running X server.
>>    [ I] x11-apps/xkbcomp (1.0.3):  compile XKB
keyboard description
>>    [ I] x11-apps/xkbutils (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbutils
application
>>    [ I] x11-libs/libxkbfile (1.0.4):  X.Org xkbfile
library
>>    [ I] x11-libs/libxkbui (1.0.2):  X.Org xkbui
library
>>    [ I] x11-libs/libxklavier (3.1):  High level XKB
library
>>    [ I] x11-misc/xkbdata (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbdata
data
>>    [ I] x11-misc/xxkb (1.10):  eXtended XKB -
assign different keymaps  
>> to
>> different windows
>>    [ I] x11-plugins/gkrellm-xkb (1.05):  XKB
keyboard switcher for
>> gkrellm2
>
>
> wow....  you have a lot of packages installed but i
don't see the one  
> that i
> was telling you about.... try emerging it....

Well, that one is setxkbmap, no? If so than I have it.
I *am* able to switch keyboard using this in terminal, but
it is not the  
way I would like to do.
>
>> it may be due to it that
>> > the system doesn't switch the keyb layout....
and another thing, on  
>> kde,
>> > you
>> > should first enable the shortcut on the kde
admin pannel....
>>   This is not afaik necessary in gnome.
>
>
> i don't know how gnome works, cause i hate it!!!! i'm a
true kde crusader
> against gnome/evolution/mono, which now are more and
more integrated as
> windows and internet exploder....
>

Ok, I can not tell. Just for me gnome seems to be simple and
elegant  
comparing to KDE eyecandy.

>>
>> >>
>> > then you're using the 2007 layout.... when you
update world you update
>> > many
>> > system packages, as gcc, libtool or
baselayout.... the experimental
>> > issue is
>> > only is you use the tilde packages, which are
still unstable.... you
>> > should
>> > not use this as an universal keyword in
make.conf, but the packages  
>> that
>> > you
>> > need and that are still under the unstable
branch should be put in the
>> > /etc/portage/package.keywords file.... if
you're using only stable  
>> packs
>> > you
>> > will not have any issue due to experimental
things.... at least for  
>> what
>> > i
>> > know of it....
>>
>> Well, sorry I should not say experimental but I was
told that there can  
>> be
>> some problems on 2007.1, so I have not switched
yet.
>> ls -l /etc/ | grep make.profile
>> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root        root       51 2007-05-06
14:42 make.profile ->
>>
..//usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1
>> Maybe it would be good idea to switch, if you have
not experienced any
>> problems.
>
>
> hmmm.... you've already switched to it.... the
configuration in the  
> profile
> is not much changed and the packages you're using are
udated.... this is  
> the
> best thing on gentoo: it isn't bonded anymore to
versioning as other
> distributions.... i've started with 2007.0 and now i'm
using a very  
> tainted
> gentoo, with sabayon packages, i've updated the
baselayout and  with a  
> lot
> of tilde packages and with paludis instead of portage
and my system is
> stable and i haven't experienced any great issue.... 
if you look at the  
> two
> profiles you'll see that there are 2 use flags changed
and you probably  
> have
> already enabled the 2 use flags that are enabled by
default.... these are
> the changes between the 2007.0 and 2006.1....
>

Yes, you are right. I switched it and do some recompilation.
Nevertheless  
this does not seem to solve my problem as none of the
recompiled packages  
has todo with gnome/X.

>    Lukas
>>
>
>
>


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