xorg not working.

Yeah well, me again. Seems I'm the only one having trouble
with PPC these 
days.

I got Xorg 7.1, fluxbox, and KDE installed. After creating
an xorg.conf with 
Xorgautoconfig I quickly realized I indeed had the problem
hinted at re: VGA 
BIOS. So I ~ppc64 keyworded xf86-video-ati and emerged
version 6.6.3 which 
applies the patch that was also hinted at. The results are
identical however. 
X starts and is running, as is fluxbox, but there is nothing
on my screen. 
The only difference is that this time the power LED on my
montor goes out 
when I start X, whereas before it stayed on.

Also, there is a difference in Xorg.0.log: X now seems to
think that I have a 
second CRT monitor attached!? 

(II) RADEON(0): Primary:
 Monitor   -- TMDS
 Connector -- DVI-D
 DAC Type  -- TVDAC/ExtDAC
 TMDS Type -- Internal
 DDC Type  -- DVI_DDC
(II) RADEON(0): Secondary:
 Monitor   -- CRT
 Connector -- VGA
 DAC Type  -- Primary
 TMDS Type -- External
 DDC Type  -- VGA_DDC

I have tried with the default xorg.conf that was generated,
and I tried all 
manner of tweaks that I gleamed from gentoo-wiki, "man
xorg.conf", and "man 
radeon". I have tried commenting and uncommenting
individual "Options" from 
xorg.conf but the result is always the same.

I have tried dropping down to 16 bit color depth and down to
1600x1024 
resolution, with no joy.

Can anyone even confirm that they have gotten an 23"
cinema display and a 
radeon 9600 to work with Xorg? I would _really_ love to see
your xorg.conf if 
you have. 

I don't know what else to say. There are no errors in my log
(though there are 
some warnings). If you want/need further information just
let me know...

I have posted the log and my current conf file in my
webspace:
http://badcomput
er.org/xorg.conf.txt
http://badcompute
r.org/xorg.log.txt

xorg-x11-7.1
mesa-6.5-r3
xf86-video-ati-6.6.3

PowerMac G5 2x 2.0GHz
Ati Radeon 9600 
23" Apple Cinema Display

I would appreciate any ideas.

-d
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with more expected..."
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darren kirby wrote:
> Yeah well, me again. Seems I'm the only one having
trouble with PPC these 
> days.
> 
> I got Xorg 7.1, fluxbox, and KDE installed. After
creating an xorg.conf with 
> Xorgautoconfig I quickly realized I indeed had the
problem hinted at re: VGA 
> BIOS. So I ~ppc64 keyworded xf86-video-ati and emerged
version 6.6.3 which 
> applies the patch that was also hinted at. The results
are identical however. 
> X starts and is running, as is fluxbox, but there is
nothing on my screen. 
> The only difference is that this time the power LED on
my montor goes out 
> when I start X, whereas before it stayed on.
> 
> Also, there is a difference in Xorg.0.log: X now seems
to think that I have a 
> second CRT monitor attached!? 
> 
> (II) RADEON(0): Primary:
>  Monitor   -- TMDS
>  Connector -- DVI-D
>  DAC Type  -- TVDAC/ExtDAC
>  TMDS Type -- Internal
>  DDC Type  -- DVI_DDC
> (II) RADEON(0): Secondary:
>  Monitor   -- CRT
>  Connector -- VGA
>  DAC Type  -- Primary
>  TMDS Type -- External
>  DDC Type  -- VGA_DDC
> 
> I have tried with the default xorg.conf that was
generated, and I tried all 
> manner of tweaks that I gleamed from gentoo-wiki,
"man xorg.conf", and "man 
> radeon". I have tried commenting and uncommenting
individual "Options" from 
> xorg.conf but the result is always the same.
> 
> I have tried dropping down to 16 bit color depth and
down to 1600x1024 
> resolution, with no joy.
> 
> Can anyone even confirm that they have gotten an
23" cinema display and a 
> radeon 9600 to work with Xorg? I would _really_ love to
see your xorg.conf if 
> you have. 
> 
> I don't know what else to say. There are no errors in
my log (though there are 
> some warnings). If you want/need further information
just let me know...
> 
> I have posted the log and my current conf file in my
webspace:
> http://badcomput
er.org/xorg.conf.txt
> http://badcompute
r.org/xorg.log.txt
> 
> xorg-x11-7.1
> mesa-6.5-r3
> xf86-video-ati-6.6.3
> 
> PowerMac G5 2x 2.0GHz
> Ati Radeon 9600 
> 23" Apple Cinema Display
> 
> I would appreciate any ideas.
> 
> -d

Well, two suggestions here:

1. From the radeon man page:
Option "ReverseDDC" "boolean"
When BIOS connector informations aren't available, use this
option to reverse the mapping of the 2 main DDC ports. Use 
this
if the X serve obviously detects the wrong display for each
connector. This is typically needed on the Radeon 9600 
cards
bundled with Apple G5s. The default is off.

2. Try adding
Option "MergedFB" "false"
It looks like it's detecting both heads, not monitors
attached to
both heads.

If that doesn't work, please let us know. 

-Joe
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darren kirby wrote:
> Yeah well, me again. Seems I'm the only one having
trouble with PPC these 
> days.
>
> I got Xorg 7.1, fluxbox, and KDE installed. After
creating an xorg.conf with 
> Xorgautoconfig I quickly realized I indeed had the
problem hinted at re: VGA 
> BIOS. So I ~ppc64 keyworded xf86-video-ati and emerged
version 6.6.3 which 
> applies the patch that was also hinted at. The results
are identical however. 
> X starts and is running, as is fluxbox, but there is
nothing on my screen. 
> The only difference is that this time the power LED on
my montor goes out 
> when I start X, whereas before it stayed on.
>
> Also, there is a difference in Xorg.0.log: X now seems
to think that I have a 
> second CRT monitor attached!? 
>
> (II) RADEON(0): Primary:
>  Monitor   -- TMDS
>  Connector -- DVI-D
>  DAC Type  -- TVDAC/ExtDAC
>  TMDS Type -- Internal
>  DDC Type  -- DVI_DDC
> (II) RADEON(0): Secondary:
>  Monitor   -- CRT
>  Connector -- VGA
>  DAC Type  -- Primary
>  TMDS Type -- External
>  DDC Type  -- VGA_DDC
>
> I have tried with the default xorg.conf that was
generated, and I tried all 
> manner of tweaks that I gleamed from gentoo-wiki,
"man xorg.conf", and "man 
> radeon". I have tried commenting and uncommenting
individual "Options" from 
> xorg.conf but the result is always the same.
>
> I have tried dropping down to 16 bit color depth and
down to 1600x1024 
> resolution, with no joy.
>
> Can anyone even confirm that they have gotten an
23" cinema display and a 
> radeon 9600 to work with Xorg? I would _really_ love to
see your xorg.conf if 
> you have. 
>
> I don't know what else to say. There are no errors in
my log (though there are 
> some warnings). If you want/need further information
just let me know...
>
> I have posted the log and my current conf file in my
webspace:
> http://badcomput
er.org/xorg.conf.txt
> http://badcompute
r.org/xorg.log.txt
>
> xorg-x11-7.1
> mesa-6.5-r3
> xf86-video-ati-6.6.3
>
> PowerMac G5 2x 2.0GHz
> Ati Radeon 9600 
> 23" Apple Cinema Display
>
> I would appreciate any ideas.
>
> -d
>   
Try Xorgconfig   auto will not work for my mac I have Dual
1.8 17 Studio
also check the video ram amount  That has helped to get X
running fine 
every time

Good Luck  
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> Try Xorgconfig   auto will not work for my mac I have
Dual 1.8 17 Studio
> also check the video ram amount  That has helped to get
X running fine
> every time

Well, as the author of Xorgautoconfig, what was the problem?
  Can
you post the config generated from each so I can fix it?

-Joe
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Joseph Jezak wrote:
>> Try Xorgconfig   auto will not work for my mac I
have Dual 1.8 17 Studio
>> also check the video ram amount  That has helped to
get X running fine
>> every time
>>     
>
> Well, as the author of Xorgautoconfig, what was the
problem?   Can
> you post the config generated from each so I can fix
it?
>
> -Joe
>   
 Joe  I need to get yaboot working first  but will send info
I wish i 
could tell you what the problem was  I think it was with the
ram amount 
In the Xorgconfig  I have to use  card # Nvidia 349  Then X
will run
I will look though my notes for now I am installing 6.1 no
doubt i will 
have pleaty of problems
In this order Yaboot ........ Then getting X to work
Thanks for the work to bring Xautoconfig  I will try it
later today
Louis

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quoth the Joseph Jezak:

Thanks for the reply,

> Well, two suggestions here:
>
> 1. From the radeon man page:
> Option "ReverseDDC" "boolean"
> When BIOS connector informations aren't available, use
this
> option to reverse the mapping of the 2 main DDC ports.
Use  this
> if the X serve obviously detects the wrong display for
each
> connector. This is typically needed on the Radeon 9600 
cards
> bundled with Apple G5s. The default is off.
>
> 2. Try adding
> Option "MergedFB" "false"
> It looks like it's detecting both heads, not monitors
attached to
> both heads.

I tried both of these ideas, separately and together. Seem
to be getting 
closer. Instead of a blank screen I get random coloured
vertical bars on 
parts of the screen. Still get this:

(II) RADEON(0): Primary:
 Monitor   -- TMDS
 Connector -- DVI-D
 DAC Type  -- TVDAC/ExtDAC
 TMDS Type -- Internal
 DDC Type  -- VGA_DDC
(II) RADEON(0): Secondary:
 Monitor   -- CRT
 Connector -- VGA
 DAC Type  -- Primary
 TMDS Type -- External
 DDC Type  -- DVI_DDC

Should note here, there is no VGA connector on the card.
There is a DVI 
connector (the one I am using) and the one that looks like
DVI, but bigger, 
ADC I think? 

> If that doesn't work, please let us know. 
> -Joe

Still no joy. Sorry for taking so long to get back to the
list, I had to go 
out...

-d
-- 
darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org
"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10,
with more expected..."
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972
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gentoo-ppc-usergentoo.org mailing list

quoth the Louis Hey:

>
> Try Xorgconfig   auto will not work for my mac I have
Dual 1.8 17 Studio
> also check the video ram amount  That has helped to get
X running fine
> every time
>
> Good Luck

I gave it a shot, but it didn't work. The xorg.conf that
Xorgautoconfig came 
up with was much superior...

-d
-- 
darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org
"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10,
with more expected..."
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972
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gentoo-ppc-usergentoo.org mailing list

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darren kirby wrote:
> quoth the Joseph Jezak:
> 
> Thanks for the reply,
> 
>> Well, two suggestions here:
>>
>> 1. From the radeon man page:
>> Option "ReverseDDC" "boolean"
>> When BIOS connector informations aren't available,
use this
>> option to reverse the mapping of the 2 main DDC
ports. Use  this
>> if the X serve obviously detects the wrong display
for each
>> connector. This is typically needed on the Radeon
9600  cards
>> bundled with Apple G5s. The default is off.
>>
>> 2. Try adding
>> Option "MergedFB" "false"
>> It looks like it's detecting both heads, not
monitors attached to
>> both heads.
> 
> I tried both of these ideas, separately and together.
Seem to be getting 
> closer. Instead of a blank screen I get random coloured
vertical bars on 
> parts of the screen. Still get this:
> 
> (II) RADEON(0): Primary:
>  Monitor   -- TMDS
>  Connector -- DVI-D
>  DAC Type  -- TVDAC/ExtDAC
>  TMDS Type -- Internal
>  DDC Type  -- VGA_DDC
> (II) RADEON(0): Secondary:
>  Monitor   -- CRT
>  Connector -- VGA
>  DAC Type  -- Primary
>  TMDS Type -- External
>  DDC Type  -- DVI_DDC
> 
> Should note here, there is no VGA connector on the
card. There is a DVI 
> connector (the one I am using) and the one that looks
like DVI, but bigger, 
> ADC I think? 
> 
>> If that doesn't work, please let us know. 
>> -Joe
> 
> Still no joy. Sorry for taking so long to get back to
the list, I had to go 
> out...
> 
> -d

Alright, one more thing to test, can you try adding:
Option "UseFBDev" "boolean"
With either false or true?

Stick with it, we'll get it working ;)
- -Joe
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quoth the Joseph Jezak:

Good morning Joseph,

> Alright, one more thing to test, can you try adding:
> Option "UseFBDev" "boolean"
> With either false or true?

> Stick with it, we'll get it working ;)
> -Joe

Yeah!!!

That's the one. Added  "UseFBDev" "true"
and it fired right up. Thank you so 
much for the help. Interestingly, I accidentally deleted the
xorg.conf that I 
had modified (I just woke up, no coffee yet), so the one
that ended up 
working was another stock Xorgautoconfig generated one with
only the above 
line added.

Again, thanks so much, I really appreciate it. ;)

-d
-- 
darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org
"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10,
with more expected..."
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972
-- 
gentoo-ppc-usergentoo.org mailing list

Louis Hey wrote:
> Joseph Jezak wrote:
>>> Try Xorgconfig   auto will not work for my mac
I have Dual 1.8 17 
>>> Studio
>>> also check the video ram amount  That has
helped to get X running fine
>>> every time
>>>     
>>
>> Well, as the author of Xorgautoconfig, what was the
problem?   Can
>> you post the config generated from each so I can
fix it?
>>
>> -Joe
>>   
> Joe  I need to get yaboot working first  but will send
info I wish i 
> could tell you what the problem was  I think it was
with the ram 
> amount In the Xorgconfig  I have to use  card # Nvidia
349  Then X 
> will run
> I will look though my notes for now I am installing 6.1
no doubt i 
> will have pleaty of problems
> In this order Yaboot ........ Then getting X to work
> Thanks for the work to bring Xautoconfig  I will try it
later today
> Louis
>
Joe just install 2006.1 on ppc64  Xautoconfig  worked the
first time  
yaboot was simple this time just had to add  ofboot=hd:2  
to Yaboot 
config and wow reboot login and start x 
Louis
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