Prefix tree locaiton

On 17-08-2006 13:25:14 -0400, Armando Di Cianno wrote:

Armando!!!!!!!!!!

(you don't know me, but I DO feel aquintanced with you,
hahahaha ...
GNUstep)

> Hi, all.  I've just subscribed to the list, after
chatting with  
> people on #gentoo-osx.  I'm *fervently* excited about
getting portage- 
> prefix on gentoo-osx to a stable level.  IMHO, fink has
had it's  
> glory days, and darwinports seems both stable, and
incredibly  
> terrible at the same time.

Aham...

> > So, not being too much familiar with the plethora
of VCSes around
> > and their capabilities, do you have an idea of how
you can easily
> > pull the svn tree and keep your own changes in
there, submitting
> > patches every now and then to include them on the
main tree?
> 
> If you have a local svn trunk that looks like
>  trunk/Adir
>  trunk/Bdir
>  trunk/Cdir
> then you can do something like the following:
>  cd trunk
>  svn propedit svn:externals A
>  (editor opens)
>  dir-name-that-will-be-created-in-Adir
svn://gentoo.org/svn/portage/ 
> trunk
>  (save, close editor)
>  svn update
>  ls Adir
>  ./Adir/dir-name-that-will-be-created-in-Adir
> ... and the code in that external trunk will be in that
named  
> directory inside Adir.

Heu... ehm.  Ok, I guess this shows it can easily be done
with svn, so
that's great!

> What this /doesn't/ let you do is commit back to the
external (unless  
> you actually had authenticated access).  But,
gratuitous use of svn  
> diff could be used to submit patches.

Of course.  In CVS I can imagine that CVS just merges all
updates all
the time.  With git I know you can have your own local
commits, so my
idea was basically like this.  Not ideal for non-gentoo
devs, but I
think that's the easiest way for now to get the work
contributed and in
the main tree.

> Conceivably, this method could also be used to host a
prefix-enabled  
> portage ebuild tree, that we /could/ submit back to,
and then  
> "official" devs could update the diffs
themselves.

In the spirit of the much criticised Sunrise, I wouldn't
really "care"
if someone set up a central repo where non-devs commit their
stuff in,
and that I periodically pull over all changes.  I have the
bandwith
available to host it myself (would make it even easier to do
the sync I
suppose) but not the machine at the moment.  (Need to do a
lot of
painting etc. anyway too, so I can't set it up soon.)

I'd be very very very happy if we could get some movement
here, so if
you folks can start, please do!  I will help wherever that
is possible.


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>I'd be very very very happy if we could get some
movement here, so if
>you folks can start, please do!  I will help wherever
that is possible.

I think we can do start something, I'll report back when I
have something
more concrete.

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On Aug 17, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Grobian wrote:

> On 17-08-2006 13:25:14 -0400, Armando Di Cianno wrote:
>
> Armando!!!!!!!!!!
>
> (you don't know me, but I DO feel aquintanced with
you, hahahaha ...
> GNUstep)

... oh, did you take over the GNUstep ebuilds?  If so, good.
 It's  
not something I wanted to drop, but I found I was fixing
more GNUstep  
bugs, than writing ebuilds, and then life got in the way ...

>> Conceivably, this method could also be used to host
a prefix-enabled
>> portage ebuild tree, that we /could/ submit back
to, and then
>> "official" devs could update the diffs
themselves.
>
> In the spirit of the much criticised Sunrise, I
wouldn't really "care"
> if someone set up a central repo where non-devs commit
their stuff in,
> and that I periodically pull over all changes.  I have
the bandwith
> available to host it myself (would make it even easier
to do the  
> sync I
> suppose) but not the machine at the moment.  (Need to
do a lot of
> painting etc. anyway too, so I can't set it up soon.)
>
> I'd be very very very happy if we could get some
movement here, so if
> you folks can start, please do!  I will help wherever
that is  
> possible.

It would be helpful to have read access to, or at least
daily  
snapshots of, all pertinent resources.  Firstly, the
prefix-enabled  
portage.  Secondly, I'm not sure if a prefix-enabled ebuild
tree was  
started or not, but if it's needed I can help set one up on
one of my  
servers, or *shudder* on my dreamhost account, otherwise,
access to  
the current one would be great.

Can this be arranged fairly quickly?

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On 18-08-2006 11:43:24 -0400, Armando Di Cianno wrote:
> ... oh, did you take over the GNUstep ebuilds?  If so,
good.  It's  
> not something I wanted to drop, but I found I was
fixing more GNUstep  
> bugs, than writing ebuilds, and then life got in the
way ...

Ahem...  It's offtopic, but it's a pain.

> >I'd be very very very happy if we could get some
movement here, so if
> >you folks can start, please do!  I will help
wherever that is  
> >possible.
> 
> It would be helpful to have read access to, or at least
daily  
> snapshots of, all pertinent resources.  Firstly, the
prefix-enabled  
> portage.  Secondly, I'm not sure if a prefix-enabled
ebuild tree was  
> started or not, but if it's needed I can help set one
up on one of my  
> servers, or *shudder* on my dreamhost account,
otherwise, access to  
> the current one would be great.

We have daily snapshots here:
http://gentoo.osuosl.org/experi
mental/snapshots/portage-alt-prefix-latest.tar.bz2
I believed anon access was set up, but might as well not be
(another
reason for me to make a sync repo that does allow it).
The prefixed portage sources might be a little out of date,
and I plan
to make a new snapshot available soon (am currently in the
process of
building on my Dual Athlon64/Fedora Core, the bootstrap
script at least
seems to work like a charm)

> Can this be arranged fairly quickly?

Does above help?  I plan to poll gentoo's infra people
pretty soon to at
least ask if they mind replicating the whole life portage
tree in SVN so
we can do diffing on branches.  (If not, I will _have_ to do
it myself.)

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On Aug 18, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Grobian wrote:
> We have daily snapshots here:
> http://gentoo.osuosl.org/experimental/snapsho
ts/portage-alt-prefix- 
> latest.tar.bz2
>
>> Can this be arranged fairly quickly?
>
> Does above help?  I plan to poll gentoo's infra people
pretty soon  
> to at
> least ask if they mind replicating the whole life
portage tree in  
> SVN so
> we can do diffing on branches.  (If not, I will _have_
to do it  
> myself.)

Yes, it does.  I didn't realize there was already a daily
snapshot  
happening (I had only seen kito's older snapshots).  This
is  
definitely the starting point I needed, thanks.

Please keep us in-the-know on the SVN stuff.

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Some update on this stuff;

Last weekend I loaded the svn sources of the prefix tree,
and a CVS
snapshot of the mainline tree in a git repo.  I haven't had
the time yet
to experiment with "syncing" them, which I need
for binutils, as they
one in prefix is so old that the distfiles aren't there any
more...


On 18-08-2006 12:03:01 -0400, Armando Di Cianno wrote:
> 
> On Aug 18, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Grobian wrote:
> >We have daily snapshots here:
> >http://gentoo.osuosl.org/experimental/snapsho
ts/portage-alt-prefix- 
> >latest.tar.bz2
> >
> >>Can this be arranged fairly quickly?
> >
> >Does above help?  I plan to poll gentoo's infra
people pretty soon  
> >to at
> >least ask if they mind replicating the whole life
portage tree in  
> >SVN so
> >we can do diffing on branches.  (If not, I will
_have_ to do it  
> >myself.)
> 
> Yes, it does.  I didn't realize there was already a
daily snapshot  
> happening (I had only seen kito's older snapshots). 
This is  
> definitely the starting point I needed, thanks.
> 
> Please keep us in-the-know on the SVN stuff.
> 
> __armando
> 
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> 

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I'll ask a dumb question, what's a git repo?

Grobian wrote:
> Some update on this stuff;
>
> Last weekend I loaded the svn sources of the prefix
tree, and a CVS
> snapshot of the mainline tree in a git repo.  I
haven't had the time yet
> to experiment with "syncing" them, which I
need for binutils, as they
> one in prefix is so old that the distfiles aren't
there any more...
>   
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On 25-08-2006 13:50:24 -0700, Christopher Chan wrote:
> I'll ask a dumb question, what's a git repo?

GIT is yet another version control system.  However, git
belongs to the
ones that are designed for distributed collabrative work, or
something.
It allows local commits on local branches, while being able
to "pull" in
the changes on the once "imported" branches and
"roll-forward" those
changes to your local branches.  It is also possible to push
your
changes to the external repositories, which I want to use
for updating
the SVN tree.  In a git local branch I can easily diff with
the CVS
mainline tree (without it changing under my feet) and merge
over the
changes to the SVN tree, via the local GIT branch.  At
least, that's the
idea 

> Grobian wrote:
> >Some update on this stuff;
> >
> >Last weekend I loaded the svn sources of the prefix
tree, and a CVS
> >snapshot of the mainline tree in a git repo.  I
haven't had the time yet
> >to experiment with "syncing" them,
which I need for binutils, as they
> >one in prefix is so old that the distfiles aren't
there any more...

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Ok, some update on the GIT stuff.  Linus needs to work a bit
on GIT, I
think.  It is so slow that for our tree it easily takes
three days to
commit or update something.  So no go.  End of success
story.  So I went
doing it manually again.

I updated the prefixed portage snapshot to the lastest svn
version,
which includes at least two fixes for unpriviledged users. 
I included
an ebuild in the prefixed tree, for those who want to know
where the
source is:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~grobian/prefix-portage-2
.1.13.4415.tar.bz2
(I couldn't come up with something more creative...)

I updated some stuff in the tree, and I hope to have a
running x86 linux
system again (with Vim 7!) at the end of the week... but no
promises!


On 26-08-2006 10:03:24 +0200, Grobian wrote:
> On 25-08-2006 13:50:24 -0700, Christopher Chan wrote:
> > I'll ask a dumb question, what's a git repo?

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