Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

Hi all,

My patience with kmail is rapidly coming to an end. All
those who wish 
kmail to survive another week on my machine are asked to
voice their 
objections now. 

I use it within kontact, and every second day or so I can no
longer 
access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall kio_pop3' tends
to fix 
this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue. But I also
have two 
other pop3 accounts where this does not happen, and I can
invariably 
get to gmail in a browser when kmail locks up.

Anyone know of a solution? I have a perfectly normal
install:

nazgul ~ # eix kmail
[I] kde-base/kmail
     Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5-r1 3.5.5-r2
(~)3.5.6-r1 (~)
3.5.6-r2 (~)3.5.6-r3 (~)3.5.7
     Installed versions:  3.5.7(3.5)(00:45:57
06/04/07)(-arts 
crypt -debug -elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal -xinerama)
     Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
     Description:         KMail is the email component of
Kontact, the 
integrated personal information manager of KDE.

nazgul ~ # eix kontact
[I] kde-base/kontact
     Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 (~)3.5.6 (~)3.5.7
     Installed versions:  3.5.7(3.5)(21:23:12 06/04/07)
(-arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal -xinerama)
     Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
     Description:         KDE personal information manager


alan

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On Friday 22 June 2007 14:34, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My patience with kmail is rapidly coming to an end. All
those who wish
> kmail to survive another week on my machine are asked
to voice their
> objections now.
>
> I use it within kontact, and every second day or so I
can no longer
> access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall kio_pop3'
tends to fix
> this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue. But I
also have two
> other pop3 accounts where this does not happen, and I
can invariably
> get to gmail in a browser when kmail locks up.
>
> Anyone know of a solution? I have a perfectly normal
install:
>
> nazgul ~ # eix kmail
> [I] kde-base/kmail
>      Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5-r1 3.5.5-r2
(~)3.5.6-r1 (~)
> 3.5.6-r2 (~)3.5.6-r3 (~)3.5.7
>      Installed versions:  3.5.7(3.5)(00:45:57
06/04/07)(-arts
> crypt -debug -elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal -xinerama)
>      Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
>      Description:         KMail is the email component
of Kontact, the
> integrated personal information manager of KDE.
>
> nazgul ~ # eix kontact
> [I] kde-base/kontact
>      Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 (~)3.5.6
(~)3.5.7
>      Installed versions:  3.5.7(3.5)(21:23:12
06/04/07)
> (-arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal -xinerama)
>      Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
>      Description:         KDE personal information
manager

I am using the stable kontact/kmail packages and do not have
any problem 
accessing my gmail account.  Assuming that yours is
correctly configured and 
there are no network problems, I can only point the finger
at the testing 
versions you are running.

BTW, a couple of weeks ago I *did* have problems accessing
Gmail, which I 
attributed to the gmail pop server.  It only lasted a couple
of days and 
since then popping Gmail has been trouble free.

It may be worth trying openssl to connect to Gmail on the
command line to 
troubleshoot it, if  you are still getting failures to
connect.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

On Friday 22 June 2007, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007 14:34, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Hi all,
[snip]
> > I use it within kontact, and every second day or
so I can no longer
> > access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall
kio_pop3' tends to fix
> > this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue.
But I also have
> > two other pop3 accounts where this does not
happen, and I can
> > invariably get to gmail in a browser when kmail
locks up.

[snip]

> I am using the stable kontact/kmail packages and do not
have any
> problem accessing my gmail account.  Assuming that
yours is correctly
> configured and there are no network problems, I can
only point the
> finger at the testing versions you are running.

<sigh> I was afraid of that...

> BTW, a couple of weeks ago I *did* have problems
accessing Gmail,
> which I attributed to the gmail pop server.  It only
lasted a couple
> of days and since then popping Gmail has been trouble
free.

Yes, I ran into that too, and the difference was that I
couldn;t get 
there in a browser either, but i'ts different this time

> It may be worth trying openssl to connect to Gmail on
the command
> line to troubleshoot it, if  you are still getting
failures to
> connect.

Good, idea, I hadn't though of that.
Thanks

alan

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HELLO, 

THIS MAY SOUND LIKE OVERKILL, BUT I'VE FOUND THAT THE MOST
RELIABLE SET-UP IS TO SIMPLY CONFIGURE FETCHMAIL, PROCMAIL,
SPAMASSASSIN, DOVECOT AND POSTFIX PROPERLY, AND JUST USE
WHATEVER CLIENT YOU PREFER AS AN IMAP READER. I USED TO MOVE
BETWEEN A COUPLE OF CLIENTS, BUT NOW I'M PRETTY MUCH SETTLED
ON KMAIL AND GNUS.

IF EVERYTHING ELSE IS CONFIGURED PROPERLY, YOU'LL NEVER FACE
SOMETHING LIKE THIS AGAIN. IT'S WELL WORTH THE ONE-TIME
INVESTMENT.

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On Freitag, 22. Juni 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My patience with kmail is rapidly coming to an end. All
those who wish
> kmail to survive another week on my machine are asked
to voice their
> objections now.
>
> I use it within kontact, and every second day or so I
can no longer
> access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall kio_pop3'
tends to fix
> this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue. But I
also have two
> other pop3 accounts where this does not happen, and I
can invariably
> get to gmail in a browser when kmail locks up.

don't have kmail open for days?
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On Friday 22 June 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Freitag, 22. Juni 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My patience with kmail is rapidly coming to an
end. All those who
> > wish kmail to survive another week on my machine
are asked to voice
> > their objections now.
> >
> > I use it within kontact, and every second day or
so I can no longer
> > access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall
kio_pop3' tends to fix
> > this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue.
But I also have
> > two other pop3 accounts where this does not
happen, and I can
> > invariably get to gmail in a browser when kmail
locks up.
>
> don't have kmail open for days?

I'd love to, but don't get a chance to try - I manage about
8 hours max 
at a stretch



alan

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Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to
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On Friday 22 June 2007 21:43, Mick wrote:

> BTW, a couple of weeks ago I *did* have problems
accessing Gmail, which
> I attributed to the gmail pop server.  It only lasted a
couple of days
> and since then popping Gmail has been trouble free.

I had a similar problem about a month or so ago. Kmail kept
saying the 
password was incorrect. Funny thing was that if I go into
the config and 
re-enter the password then kmail + gmail would be fine until
kmail is 
restarted and then I have to re-enter the password again.
However after a 
while (about a week) this odd behaviour stopped and now
kmail is behaving 
properly.

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On 22 June 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

> > don't have kmail open for days?
>
> I'd love to, but don't get a chance to try - I manage
about 8 hours max
> at a stretch

???

I usually have kmail open for days or even weeks without any
problems. Well, I 
don't use gmail. 

Uwe 

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On Saturday 23 June 2007 03:04, Dale wrote:

> Little off topic but my Kopete does that too.  Works
fine until I log
> out of KDE then I have to reenter my password.  Makes
me wonder.  ??
> These related somehow??

No idea. But it's odd that out of my 15 pop/imap accounts
only the gmail 
one had that behaviour.

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