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RE: Can WinXp be Vm app from gentoo?
country flaguser name
United States
2007-07-10 15:52:19
> > I do have a couple of WinXP pro licenses but hoped
there might be a
> > ready made VMappliance I can just download and
fireup.
> 
> Download Windows XP? Do you actually assume, that
somebody
> will now post a link to some Warez site, or what?

You can hunt here and maybe find something:
http://www.vmw
are.com/vmtn/appliances/

For example,
h
ttp://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/649

Is a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition
Virtual
Appliance

Why does everyone always assume people are pirates or in
search of
warez. I don't see why someone couldn't put up a copy of XP
or Vista or
whatever that is unactivated, yet all installed and ready to
go
(everything but the CPU is emulated in VMWare, so it could
be possible,
and even the XP CPU is a generic x86 compatible, not like
it's optimized
AFAIK). Then one could just plop in their key to activate it
for reals
to get "WGA certifed".

I'm sure you can find an XP CD lying around your work or ask
someone
with an MSDN subscription too. 

A word of advice, once you have it all installed in your VM
and setup
the way you like, I would take a snapshot so you can always
revert to
it. Or backup the VM directory. I like to use an XP VM on my
XP host
just to go to sites where they try to install something to
make you get
the content, etc.

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Re: Can WinXp be Vm app from gentoo?
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United States
2007-07-10 22:40:02
Daevid Vincent wrote:
> Why does everyone always assume people are pirates or
in search of
> warez. I don't see why someone couldn't put up a copy
of XP or Vista or
> whatever that is unactivated, yet all installed and
ready to go
> (everything but the CPU is emulated in VMWare, so it
could be possible,
> and even the XP CPU is a generic x86 compatible, not
like it's optimized
> AFAIK). Then one could just plop in their key to
activate it for reals
> to get "WGA certifed".
> 
Because, as far as I can tell (and IANAL), that would be
illegal.  I don't have
a license to distribute Windows XP.

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Re: Can WinXp be Vm app from gentoo?
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Australia
2007-07-11 01:14:28
On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 23:40 -0400, C Lee Davis wrote:
> Daevid Vincent wrote:
> > Why does everyone always assume people are pirates
or in search of
> > warez. I don't see why someone couldn't put up a
copy of XP or Vista or
> > whatever that is unactivated, yet all installed
and ready to go
> > (everything but the CPU is emulated in VMWare, so
it could be possible,
> > and even the XP CPU is a generic x86 compatible,
not like it's optimized
> > AFAIK). Then one could just plop in their key to
activate it for reals
> > to get "WGA certifed".
> > 
> Because, as far as I can tell (and IANAL), that would
be illegal.  I don't have
> a license to distribute Windows XP.

hm, don't know about the distribution side, but you can sure
install any
version of Vista you like, from the one Vista DVD without a
license /
activation.  Only the one you have a license for can run for
more than
30 days (or some number) though.

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Re: Can WinXp be Vm app from gentoo?
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United Kingdom
2007-07-11 09:09:40
ON WEDNESDAY 11 JULY 2007 07:14, IAIN BUCHANAN WROTE:
> ON TUE, 2007-07-10 AT 23:40 -0400, C LEE DAVIS WROTE:
> > DAEVID VINCENT WROTE:
> > > WHY DOES EVERYONE ALWAYS ASSUME PEOPLE ARE
PIRATES OR IN SEARCH OF
> > > WAREZ. I DON'T SEE WHY SOMEONE COULDN'T PUT
UP A COPY OF XP OR VISTA OR
> > > WHATEVER THAT IS UNACTIVATED, YET ALL
INSTALLED AND READY TO GO
> > > (EVERYTHING BUT THE CPU IS EMULATED IN
VMWARE, SO IT COULD BE POSSIBLE,
> > > AND EVEN THE XP CPU IS A GENERIC X86
COMPATIBLE, NOT LIKE IT'S
> > > OPTIMIZED AFAIK). THEN ONE COULD JUST PLOP IN
THEIR KEY TO ACTIVATE IT
> > > FOR REALS TO GET "WGA CERTIFED".
> >
> > BECAUSE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL (AND IANAL), THAT
WOULD BE ILLEGAL.  I
> > DON'T HAVE A LICENSE TO DISTRIBUTE WINDOWS XP.
>
> HM, DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION SIDE, BUT YOU CAN
SURE INSTALL ANY
> VERSION OF VISTA YOU LIKE, FROM THE ONE VISTA DVD
WITHOUT A LICENSE /
> ACTIVATION.  ONLY THE ONE YOU HAVE A LICENSE FOR CAN
RUN FOR MORE THAN
> 30 DAYS (OR SOME NUMBER) THOUGH.

DOES THIS MEAN THAT IF MY HYPOTHETICAL IMAGINARY FRIEND WERE
TO INSTALL VISTA 
ON VMWARE (I ASSUME THAT THIS IS VMWARE WORKSTATION, NOT
VMWARE PLAYER, 
RIGHT?) AND TAKE A SNAPSHOT OF IT, THEN IT WILL ALWAYS STAY
ACTIVE?  OR WILL 
VISTA FIRE UP, READ THE CURRENT DATE AND USE THAT TO
DETERMINE IF THE TRIAL 
PERIOD HAS EXPIRED?

JUST CURIOUS.
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Re: Can WinXp be Vm app from gentoo?
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Australia
2007-07-12 00:22:12
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 15:09 +0100, Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 July 2007 07:14, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > 
> > hm, don't know about the distribution side, but
you can sure install any
> > version of Vista you like, from the one Vista DVD
without a license /
> > activation.  Only the one you have a license for
can run for more than
> > 30 days (or some number) though.
> 
> Does this mean that if my hypothetical imaginary friend
were to install Vista 
> on VMWare (I assume that this is VMWare Workstation,
not VMWare Player, 
> right?)

yes, workstation.

>  and take a snapshot of it, then it will always stay
active?  Or will 
> Vista fire up, read the current date and use that to
determine if the trial 
> period has expired?

my hypothetical imaginary friend used to do that with
microsoft office.
And instead of shutting down XP in VMware he'd just kill it,
and re-use
the same snapshot next time.  Thus every time he opened
office, the
"uses left before activation" was always 29...

> Just curious.

me2.  Haven't tried it with Vista, but I assume it would use
the real
date.

cya,
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of the way
before it is understood.

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