localization.py

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Hello,

Does localization.py exist for a reason?

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Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> Does localization.py exist for a reason?

I don't see a localization.py. There is a
portage_localization.py, and it's used 
by portage.py and portage_locks.py.

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2007-10-19 17:41:06 ANDREW GAFFNEY NAPISA?(A):
> ARFREVER FREHTES TAIFERSAR ARAHESIS WROTE:
> > DOES LOCALIZATION.PY EXIST FOR A REASON?
>
> I DON'T SEE A LOCALIZATION.PY.

SO YOU HAVE OLD PORTAGE.

> THERE IS A PORTAGE_LOCALIZATION.PY, AND IT'S USED
> BY PORTAGE.PY AND PORTAGE_LOCKS.PY.

BUT IT COULD BE USED BY ALMOST ALL PORTAGE PYTHON MODULES.

MY QUESTION IS STILL CURRENT.

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Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> 2007-10-19 17:41:06 Andrew Gaffney napisał(a):
>> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>>> Does localization.py exist for a reason?
>> I don't see a localization.py.
> 
> So you have old Portage.

I wouldn't consider 2.1.3.14 old.

>> There is a portage_localization.py, and it's used
>> by portage.py and portage_locks.py.
> 
> But it could be used by almost all Portage Python
modules.

Feel free to submit a patch.

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There have been various efforts to add localization for
errors and
other portage messages.
The codebase is not well designed for it though, and the
people who
want it done keep getting busy with other tasks, so it
mostly lies
unused.

On 10/19/07, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
<arfrever.ftagmail.com> wrote:
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Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Does localization.py exist for a reason?
> 

Over the years we've had a few people express a desire for
internationalization and localization support in portage
(bugs
#13618, #32630, and #191189 and possible others).

It seems like a nice idea to me, but I recall Marius being
opposed
to the idea due to some potential problems that he was
concerned
about. Unfortunately I don't have a link to the previous
discussion
but maybe somebody else does.

Zac
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:23:59 -0700
Zac Medico <zmedicogentoo.org> wrote:

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> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Does localization.py exist for a reason?
> > 
> 
> Over the years we've had a few people express a desire
for
> internationalization and localization support in
portage (bugs
> #13618, #32630, and #191189 and possible others).
> 
> It seems like a nice idea to me, but I recall Marius
being opposed
> to the idea due to some potential problems that he was
concerned
> about. Unfortunately I don't have a link to the
previous discussion
> but maybe somebody else does.

Probably not the one you meant, but you can find a related
discussion on the forums:
http
://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-500209.html
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2007-10-21 22:49:10 MARIUS MAUCH NAPISA?(A):
> ON SUN, 21 OCT 2007 12:23:59 -0700
> ZAC MEDICO <ZMEDICOGENTOO.ORG> WROTE:
> 
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> > ARFREVER FREHTES TAIFERSAR ARAHESIS WROTE:
> > > HELLO,
> > > 
> > > DOES LOCALIZATION.PY EXIST FOR A REASON?
> > > 
> > 
> > OVER THE YEARS WE'VE HAD A FEW PEOPLE EXPRESS A
DESIRE FOR
> > INTERNATIONALIZATION AND LOCALIZATION SUPPORT IN
PORTAGE (BUGS
> > #13618, #32630, AND #191189 AND POSSIBLE OTHERS).
> > 
> > IT SEEMS LIKE A NICE IDEA TO ME, BUT I RECALL
MARIUS BEING OPPOSED
> > TO THE IDEA DUE TO SOME POTENTIAL PROBLEMS THAT HE
WAS CONCERNED
> > ABOUT. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE A LINK TO THE
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION
> > BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE DOES.
> 
> PROBABLY NOT THE ONE YOU MEANT, BUT YOU CAN FIND A
RELATED
> DISCUSSION ON THE FORUMS:
> HTTP://FORUMS.GENTOO.ORG/VIEWTOPIC-T-500209.HTML

IT SEEMS THAT YOU JUST DON'T LIKE GERMAN TRANSLATION, SO YOU
COULD SET
LC_ALL=C IN MAKE.CONF.

IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG IN MY PATCH?

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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:54:59 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <arfrever.ftagmail.com> wrote:

> 2007-10-21 22:49:10 Marius Mauch napisał(a):
> > On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:23:59 -0700
> > Zac Medico <zmedicogentoo.org> wrote:
> > 
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> > > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > Does localization.py exist for a
reason?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Over the years we've had a few people express
a desire for
> > > internationalization and localization support
in portage (bugs
> > > #13618, #32630, and #191189 and possible
others).
> > > 
> > > It seems like a nice idea to me, but I recall
Marius being opposed
> > > to the idea due to some potential problems
that he was concerned
> > > about. Unfortunately I don't have a link to
the previous
> > > discussion but maybe somebody else does.
> > 
> > Probably not the one you meant, but you can find a
related
> > discussion on the forums:
> > http
://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-500209.html
> 
> It seems that you just don't like German translation,
so you could set
> LC_ALL=C in make.conf.

I don't have an issue with localizations on my systems (I
don't
use them anyway), the problem is with other people reporting
bugs or
asking for support posting messages we can't understand,
the
questionable quality of translations (as we can't really
control them)
potentially leading to bogus bug reports and the general
added
complexity. It's just my opinion that system tools simply
shouldn't be
localized (best example: gcc error messages).

Marius
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