Integrating the Brush Editor into Brush Options

Martin Nordholts wrote:

> Among many interesting comments regarding the GIMP
usability at Slashdot
> <http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/16/2221214> (congrats to
> pippin for making a slashdot story btw , it seems
as if people find it
> hard to realize that there is a brush editor.

The bigger problem is that by default, no brush will be
writeable. There
are plenty of people who actually find the brush editor but
can't figure
out how to change the values there.


HTH,
Michael

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On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:48:08AM +0200, Michael Schumacher
wrote:
> Martin Nordholts wrote:
> 
> > Among many interesting comments regarding the GIMP
usability at Slashdot
> > <http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/16/2221214> (congrats to
> > pippin for making a slashdot story btw , it seems
as if people find it
> > hard to realize that there is a brush editor.
> 
> The bigger problem is that by default, no brush will be
writeable. There
> are plenty of people who actually find the brush editor
but can't figure
> out how to change the values there.
> 
IMHO this problem is simple to circunvent. Just popup a
windows proposing to
copy the brush if it finds that it's non writable by the
user.

Same procedure could be applied to the other
"system" things like pattern
and palettes...

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On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 12:04 +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote:

> > The bigger problem is that by default, no brush
will be writeable. There
> > are plenty of people who actually find the brush
editor but can't figure
> > out how to change the values there.
> > 
> IMHO this problem is simple to circunvent. Just popup a
windows proposing to
> copy the brush if it finds that it's non writable by
the user.

I don't really see the need for the confirmation dialog at
all. This
could well be done transparently to the user. 

I also believe that we should allow scaling bitmap brushes.
It's easier
to understand why my brush is blurry than why some brushes
behave
differently. Does having the brushes at a larger resolution,
say
256x256px, and scaling them down have considerable speed
implications?

cheers

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Jakub Steiner <jimmacximian.com>

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Hi,
jimmacximian.com (2006-10-17 at 1532.58 +0200):
> I also believe that we should allow scaling bitmap
brushes. It's easier
> to understand why my brush is blurry than why some
brushes behave
> differently. Does having the brushes at a larger
resolution, say
> 256x256px, and scaling them down have considerable
speed implications?

Gimp already does it, just use a pressure sensitive device
and
activate Size, so you would get a range from original to
small and it
does not seem to be slow. OTOH, some find the current method
or its
parameters a bit low quality. Control of size is more an
interface
issue, just provide a control to go from original down to
near zero
(remember subpixel methods).

Complain about speed vs quality:
http
://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170250
Basic idea:
http:
//bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65030
And dupish (just adds rotation):
http
://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163057
Full control system for all paint tools:
http
://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119240

GSR
 
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