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Cannot open gmail - 1 new
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Already tried that, no go. I will try the alternative
address but still seek
an answer. I may also rollback prior to the MS patch load,
that was the only
change made on my system that day. But keep the suggestions
going. I
appreciate all your help. mike... - Sun, Oct 22 2006 8:27 am
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Invitation Codes only for First time sign up? - 2 new
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If my account goes unused for a while, and I decide to try
to log in, is there
any reason why a new invitation code might be sent to me?
Or, is it strictly
for NEW accounts? Thanks! - Sun, Oct 22 2006 8:38 am
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Terminating my account - 2 new
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I no longer want or need Gmail. Since downloading it, my
computer is slow and
sluggish. I want to get rid of it, but nowhere in the help
topics does it tell
me how to terminate my account. Can somebody please advise
me... TKM - Sun,
Oct 22 2006 8:55 am
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Messages marked as spam keep coming back - 1 new
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...Yeah that was kinda my point really. If I mark dozens of
messages with
almost the exact same body text but different subjects
and/or from addresses,
then the Gmail spam filter should pick up on it. - Sun, Oct
22 2006 9:58 am
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account with DOT and Without DOT! - 3 new
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HI! my email address is: amindi... gmail.com but if you mail
to amin.di...
gmail.com i recieve it !!!!!! WHY? if somebody take
amin.di...gmail.com i'll
recieve mails to it in amindi...gmail.com or not? - Sun,
Oct 22 2006 10:16 am
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Problem with password - 2 new
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Can somebody please give me advise I have 2 gmail account
and as of this
mornign a Icannot access my one account it keeps on telling
me that the
username and the password does not correspond but i have
been using this
account for more than a year now and the last time I have
accessed it was last
night at 11pm south african time. what can be the - Sun, Oct
22 2006 10:33 am
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Changing the way time is displayed - 2 new
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On incoming gmail - is it possible to change the way time is
displayed Example
changing 14:30:01 to 2:30? (or whatever the correct time
would be) Thanks in
advance - Sun, Oct 22 2006 10:58 am
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I lost all my messages! - 1 new
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hi lisa, thank you! but i have another question.. I cannot
find the bug report
...ashamed...! I searched in the Help Section,
unsuccessfully... can you be
more accurate? Bye! - Sun, Oct 22 2006 11:18 am
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email monitoring? - 2 new
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Please try and see if one of the problems listed in this
page of their Help
Center is addressing your problem. [link] Keith [link] -
Sun, Oct 22 2006 12:
12 pm
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Which Service Allows Large Recipient Groups? - 2 new
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Thanks Lisa. I will give it a try and let you know. I have
one Google Group,
but I need one that is announcement only. When I started to
create the new one,
it looked like I would not have control over who would be
in the group.
Thanks again, OceanAndy - Sun, Oct 22 2006 5:14 am
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MENU : ***subject line too long.** - 1 new
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xor wrote: - Sun, Oct 22 2006 12:40 pm
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How to notify the sender that his/her emails are rejected by
my inbox? - 2 new
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I know how to use filter to remove unwanted emails to
trash/spam folders.
However, what I am looking for is to notify the sender that
the email has been
rejected. I don't seem to find any way to do this with the
current Gmail
features. - Fantastic - Sun, Oct 22 2006 1:32 pm
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G-MAIL ACCOUNT IS DISABLED! Please Help ME LISA or ANYONE -
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I just tried to post a REPLY but I got an error message
WHERE DO I GO FOR
ANSWERS ON GMAIL AND GOOGLE DOC AND SSHEETS? Thanks -
LVK...gmail.com - Sun,
Oct 22 2006 6:42 am
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mail going straight to trash - 4 new
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I've had many, many messages going straight to trash from
senders whom I have
corresponded with many times. They may not be senders on my
contact list, but
if I've had numerous conversations with them before, aren't
they automatically
added to my contacts list? I can't figure out why their
emails are getting
sent to the trash. Even certain messages - Sun, Oct 22 2006
3:02 pm
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Can't send or forward emails to gmail accounts - 6 new
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I can't send or forward emails to my gmail accout or my
wifes gmail account
from my work email. This problem just started two weeks ago,
before then I was
able to send emails to both accounts. I get the following
message everytime as
it comes back as undeliverable: "There was a SMTP
communication problem with
the recipient's email - Sun, Oct 22 2006 3:09 pm
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Recover deleted draft...? - 5 new
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Is there anyway to recover a deleted draft after the
"restore" option has
disappeared? thx, - Sun, Oct 22 2006 3:36 pm
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Gmail & Blackberry - 1 new
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I use a blackberry for business and also receive my Gmail on
it. Problem is
that when I get a Gmail or send a Gmail from my Gmail
account it shows up as a
duplicate on my blackberry as well. I tried the fix
recommended by Goodler on
March 21, 2005 but it did not work. Goodler recommended
using a filter. - Sun,
Oct 22 2006 3:36 pm
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stop new mail from poping up when I turn on my PC - 4 new
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How do I turn off the feature that makes any new gmail I get
pop up as soon as
I boot up my PC....? - Sun, Oct 22 2006 4:02 pm
4 messages , 2 authors
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spam or not spam?? - 1 new
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Gmail Spam Filter does not key on the word "spam"
only. It has many criteria
for identifying spam. Spam could be something your eat. So
no concern is
needed. - Sun, Oct 22 2006 4:12 pm
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Gmail notifier suddenly stopped working. - 1 new
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Ah after surfing around a little more I found someone who
solved this by going
to Internet options, Connections, Lan Settings, &
checking Automatically
detect settings. Works like a charm now. - Sun, Oct 22 2006
4:37 pm
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my inbox is full - 2 new
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my inbox reached ciritcal mass a few days ago........about
2773 MB of the
alloted 2775 MB. I've deleted over 2000 emails, many with
attachments and all
of my sent mail. However, it stiull says that i used up 100%
of my inbox space.
As a result, i cannot send or recive any emails. Any
suggestions?? Sagar -
Sun, Oct 22 2006 4:38 pm
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Mail being sent to Trash - 2 new
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that is problem is your problem right there since you have
choose to delete
gmail copy changed that from delete to keep gmail copy inbox
and then try that
see if that help any if they start appear in your inbox. -
Sun, Oct 22 2006 4:
53 pm
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gmail window font size problem - 2 new
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While typing I must have hit some short cut keys and all of
suden my gmail
window is in little tiny font size. How do I get it back to
a normal, readable
size of type. This is the main window, not composing new
emails, but the inbox
and even th list of labels off to the side are in a 8 or
smaller size. HELP???
- Sun, Oct 22 2006 5:22 pm
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Wildcards in Subject Line Filters - 2 new
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I'm getting a ton of spam that Gmail isn't doing a good job
of filtering. For
example, I get a lot of stuff like VlbAGRA, VlsAGRA, etc.
I'd like to create a
wildcard filter that looks like V**AGRA, so I can forward
all that mail to
trash. Is this possible? I can't figure out how to use
wildcards in filters at
- Sun, Oct 22 2006 5:48 pm
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Unable to enter type in body of email. - 1 new
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I was able to resolve the issue on my own. For others who
might be
experiencing a similar problem, try emptying your cache.
That seemed to work
for me. - Sun, Oct 22 2006 5:50 pm
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Gmail notifier stopped working, Google notifier won't work
either (Mac OS X
Tiger PPC) - 5 new
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Last Friday for some reason Gmail notifier suddenly went
dead. Even though I
received new messages it would not tell me anything about
them, as if I hadn't
received any. That prompted me to upgrade to Google
Notifier. Now Google
Notifier gives me that exclamation mark as if it were not
able to connect to
my Gmail account, which I can use - Sun, Oct 22 2006 5:58 pm
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Gmail notifier - 2 new
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I got a new gmail address but my Gmail notifier keeps
checking the old address.
I signed in with the new address so I do not know what
could be wrong. Please
help. - Sun, Oct 22 2006 6:14 pm
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Typing problems using firefox in Mac OSX Tiger - 5 new
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I have this same problem. Tiger 10.4.8. iMac G5 1,8, Firefox
1.5.0.7 Text made
on another machine is loaded but not editable in Google Docs
I have a migrated
writely-account. - Sun, Oct 22 2006 11:24 am
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Gmail Server - 5 new
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Gmail server is not forwarding my email to my ISP. My ISP
checked with the
gamil server and it does not recognize my ISP, nor does it
recognize the main
telephone company here in Montana. I cannot find any way to
contact Technical
support and tell them the gmail server is screwing up and
not forwarding my
mail, nor is it forwarding my wife's - Sun, Oct 22 2006 6:34
pm
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Docs and Spreadsheets - 2 new
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Hello, Our company just signed up to beta test Gmail and the
Calendar using
our own domain name. The service is absolutely amazing!!! I
use a lot of
Google Apps at home and one is Docs and Spreadsheets. How do
I add doc and
spreadsheets as an App when using my work Google account. It
seems as though
the Domain account is somewhat stripped down. Any - Sun, Oct
22 2006 8:09 pm
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fotos do not show with message - 2 new
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One of the primary reasons that I loved gmail so much, was
due to its ability
to let me see my picture attachments without having to
download that picture.
Well since yesterday I have not been able to view my picture
attachments in
that manner, and I was wondering if anyone who has expertise
in this matter
could either tell me why or more - Sun, Oct 22 2006 8:13 pm
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Are ZIP files blocked? - 2 new
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I read yesterday that ZIP files are blocked and this would
explain why my
attachments did not go through. Is this a rumor? Or is it
true - does anyone
know? - Sun, Oct 22 2006 8:16 pm
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Google Notifier - 1 new
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I've been having problems with the Google Notifier, when it
started switching
between the different gmail accounts that I have. It seems
that it switches to
the account that receives the newer message rather than
staying connected to
the specified account. Anyone is having the same problem? I
would like to
check the different accounts (I'm doing that using the -
Sun, Oct 22 2006 9:44
pm
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trouble with new members - 3 new
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I need to get a email address for my grandaughter and she
has no email account
to send the invitation to as is requested...Can I get a
account for her???? -
Sun, Oct 22 2006 9:55 pm
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To: address is always filled - 5 new
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I needed some help with another Yahoo account, so I sent an
email to account-
security-h...cc.yahoo -inc.com earlier today (via
Gmail). Now, when I try to
compose new mail with Gmail, the "To" line always
has the account-security-h...
cc.yahoo -inc.com address automatically there, as if
I want to send them
another email! - Sun, Oct 22 2006 11:08 pm
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using * in filters - 2 new
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Hey, I get a spam with subject RE:Vl*AGRA, where * is any
lowercase letter
abount once a day. I'd like to have a filter that blocks
Vl*AGRA, again using *
as a wildcard. Thus far I haven't had the best of luck with
getting it to
work as a wildcard... anyone have any suggestions? Thanks
MXM - Sun, Oct 22
2006 11:14 pm
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recover mail from trash - 2 new
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The trash folder automatically deletes messages after 30
days. I want to
recover mail that has been deleted. Please inform how to go
about it. - Sun,
Oct 22 2006 11:47 pm
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Comcast blocking gmail now? - 6 new
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A buddy of mine has Comcast high-speed internet (cable
modem) and I've never
had trouble sending him email (including one I sent this
morning) before. But
now I get a bounce message with this (his email deleted for
privacy). Anybody
else seeing this problem? Who do I contact to see about
getting this fixed? -
Mon, Oct 23 2006 12:42 am
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secondary email address - 2 new
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hiiiiiiii i forgot my passwd to one of my gmail
account....its imp account.....
i dont remember my secondary email address is thr any way
to know my
secondary mail id so tht i cud see the details 4m tht mail
can you plz help me
. Or can i edit my secondary email address - Mon, Oct 23
2006 12:54 am
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Big problem - "End" key not working at all - 1 new
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Youpiiii.. looks like it was just fixed and integrated... I
officially confirm
that I don't have the bug anymore.. "End" key
works again!!! [23-10-2006] It's
quite well done actually.. if I press the "Home"
key once I go at the begining
of the line. but if I press it twice, it brings the little
dialog I was
talking about.. Quick Bookmarks Search.. - Mon, Oct 23 2006
1:07 am
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SPAM is out of control - 1 new
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Hi, The influx of spam in my spam box is out of control and
increasing
exponentially. Is there a way to set up Gmail to only accept
mail form your
address book and block all other email such as addresses,
domains, etc. My
hotmail account will allow you to report, block email and
domains. Can Gmail
do this? I have looked within the preferences and - Mon, Oct
23 2006 1:19 am
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mouse hover drop down menus not usable - 2 new
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very frustrating....Having trouble in several different
areas of Gmail where
there is a mouse hover "pop up" menu or one where
you single click an item to
get a brief pop up menu (sometimes called a floating menu or
tool tip)....
these hover menus just flash on the screen...wth no chance
to choose an time
from said menu or to even read the contents - Mon, Oct 23
2006 1:44 am
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No Graphics Or Images Anymore In G-Mail... - 1 new
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Helo-o-o-o-O-O-o? - Mon, Oct 23 2006 1:55 am
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Label Duplication - 4 new
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I was doing a little housecleaning applying labels to old
conversations and to
my surprise it began to create new labels for the
conversations I was
archiving. Has anyone encountered this before? Is it a bug
or do I not know
what I'm doing here? Thanks - Mon, Oct 23 2006 1:55 am
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Gmail/Googletoolbar Issue - 2 new
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Hello, With Telus Internet Security, is it possible to have
both gmail, and
the google toolbar operating at once? To have the toolbar
work an option
called "enable 3rd party browser extensions" in
advanced internet options in
the control panel must be checked, for gmail to work the
very same box must be
unchecked. Has anyone else encountered - Mon, Oct 23 2006
1:56 am
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Contact's list - 1 new
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In the quick contacts list, the display has a contact that
is called "
00000000000008contact". However, this address
doesn't exist, and I have never
even sent an email to any address like it. I did not create
this contact. Also,
when I look at the "all contacts list", it is not
listed as one of them. Does
any one know how to solve this problem? - Sun, Oct 22 2006
7:23 pm
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Rearranging labels non-alphabetically in the left hand panel
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Hi all, How to rearrange labels non-alphabetically in the
left hand panel?
There are several labels I use frequently, which
alphabetically come much
later than the ones I use less frequently. I'd like to have
the labels more
frequently used, show up higher in the list. Is there a
customisation or an
extension that will let me do this? - Mon, Oct 23 2006 2:24
am
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mobile login resets password - 1 new
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When I try to check my email from my mobile phone, I get a
password error
message. then when I try to check my email from my desktop
browser, I can't
login and need to reset my password. This has happened
twice. Anyone else
having this problem? - Mon, Oct 23 2006 2:40 am
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g-mail address - 2 new
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I am a new member and sent my first e-mail out to a friend.
He reports that my
mail did not include my g-mail address, only my name. How do
I include my g-
mail address in all my outgoing mail? - Mon, Oct 23 2006
4:17 am
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SPAMMMMMMM - 2 new
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I have almost 4,000 SPAM Emails that are marked as "Not
Spam" I can only
delete them 'one page' at a time. I do this about every
month! First, how can
I stop these? Second, Is there a way to DELETE ALL OF THEM
AT ONE TIME? Please
HELP!! Bill Roberts - Mon, Oct 23 2006 4:29 am
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chinese characters display as chaos - 3 new
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I select sending email with utf-8 coding, and I sent the
same mail to Hotmail(
English), Yahoo china(Chinese), Netease(chinese). Then I
open these mail box
in IE (win XP, Chinese edition) with the same settings, the
hotmail show
chinese as chaos ; yahoo china and netease display
correctly. BTW: sometimes,
the netease also display chinese chars in gmail mail as -
Mon, Oct 23 2006 5:
33 am
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This could help! - 2 new
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[link] - Mon, Oct 23 2006 5:51 am
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Messages disappeared - 1 new
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all my massages disappeared it seems as if my account has
been hacked, is
there any possibility to get them back? - Mon, Oct 23 2006
7:09 am
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