New version of the software and opinion?

Google has released today a new version of the GSA sofware
(version
5.0), which is the first release after 8 months.

See press release (http://
www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/
20071010_gsa5.html) and official blog (http://
googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2007/10/five-years-of-evolutio
n-in-
enterprise.html).

I don't think the actual update files are yet available on
the support
site.

>From the info available so far, it seems that the new
release is
focusing on connectors to acquire more external content.
This is often
perceived as a limitation of the GSA compared to other
entreprise
solutions, and is also a smart move for Google, whose
licensing model
is based on the number of documents indexed... (more
documents=more
money).

It is not obvious yet on whether the connectors are running
directly
inside a GSA (onboard connectors), or still require a
separate server
for some code to run. If so, this wouldn't be such a big
step forward
or difference from what was already available.

Also, Google has created an entreprise lab (http://www.google.com/
enterprise/labs/), with some examples of code available to
enhance the
user experience. However, looks like most of those examples
require an
external Apache/Php/MySQL environment to run, so not too
much related
to the GSA itself, and moving away from a turnkey,
"easy to deploy",
self-contained solution (Google's target customers are not
probably
companies with internal development expertise on php and
other
scripting languages...)

Installing the new release will surely tell us more, and we
will also
see if any of the suggestions made by the customers, on this
group or
elsewhere, have been taken into account.

Please share your opinions.

Seb


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i am definately NOT a fan of having to use the 4.x gsa + a
windows
server with iis in order to use the access connectors. i'm
glad to see
the 5.x release and cannot wait to get my hands on it!

On Oct 10, 1:27 pm, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
> Google has released today a new version of the GSA
sofware (version
> 5.0), which is the first release after 8 months.
>
> See press release (http://
www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/
> 20071010_gsa5.html) and official blog (http://
>
googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2007/10/five-years-of-evolutio
n-in-
> enterprise.html).
>
> I don't think the actual update files are yet available
on the support
> site.
>
> >From the info available so far, it seems that the
new release is
>
> focusing on connectors to acquire more external
content. This is often
> perceived as a limitation of the GSA compared to other
entreprise
> solutions, and is also a smart move for Google, whose
licensing model
> is based on the number of documents indexed... (more
documents=more
> money).
>
> It is not obvious yet on whether the connectors are
running directly
> inside a GSA (onboard connectors), or still require a
separate server
> for some code to run. If so, this wouldn't be such a
big step forward
> or difference from what was already available.
>
> Also, Google has created an entreprise lab (http://www.google.com/
> enterprise/labs/), with some examples of code available
to enhance the
> user experience. However, looks like most of those
examples require an
> external Apache/Php/MySQL environment to run, so not
too much related
> to the GSA itself, and moving away from a turnkey,
"easy to deploy",
> self-contained solution (Google's target customers are
not probably
> companies with internal development expertise on php
and other
> scripting languages...)
>
> Installing the new release will surely tell us more,
and we will also
> see if any of the suggestions made by the customers, on
this group or
> elsewhere, have been taken into account.
>
> Please share your opinions.
>
> Seb


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Looks like you are going to be out of luck.

On 10 Oct, 20:58, eric <eric.ol...gmail.com> wrote:
> i am definately NOT a fan of having to use the 4.x gsa
+ a windows
> server with iis in order to use the access connectors.
i'm glad to see
> the 5.x release and cannot wait to get my hands on it!
>
> On Oct 10, 1:27 pm, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Google has released today a new version of the GSA
sofware (version
> > 5.0), which is the first release after 8 months.
>
> > See press release (http://
www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/
> > 20071010_gsa5.html) and official blog (http://
> >
googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2007/10/five-years-of-evolutio
n-in-
> > enterprise.html).
>
> > I don't think the actual update files are yet
available on the support
> > site.
>
> > >From the info available so far, it seems that
the new release is
>
> > focusing on connectors to acquire more external
content. This is often
> > perceived as a limitation of the GSA compared to
other entreprise
> > solutions, and is also a smart move for Google,
whose licensing model
> > is based on the number of documents indexed...
(more documents=more
> > money).
>
> > It is not obvious yet on whether the connectors
are running directly
> > inside a GSA (onboard connectors), or still
require a separate server
> > for some code to run. If so, this wouldn't be such
a big step forward
> > or difference from what was already available.
>
> > Also, Google has created an entreprise lab (http://www.google.com/
> > enterprise/labs/), with some examples of code
available to enhance the
> > user experience. However, looks like most of those
examples require an
> > external Apache/Php/MySQL environment to run, so
not too much related
> > to the GSA itself, and moving away from a turnkey,
"easy to deploy",
> > self-contained solution (Google's target customers
are not probably
> > companies with internal development expertise on
php and other
> > scripting languages...)
>
> > Installing the new release will surely tell us
more, and we will also
> > see if any of the suggestions made by the
customers, on this group or
> > elsewhere, have been taken into account.
>
> > Please share your opinions.
>
> > Seb- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


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I don't know how everyone else fared, but the 5.0 update
failed on
both of my GSAs.  One failed in the firmware update and the
other
failed in the software update.  I followed all the
procedures in the
update how-to and I pasted the file URL into each device to
let it
take care of the procedure automatically.

Both devices are still serving search but I can't log on to
the admin
console of one of them, and the other reports at least 2
RAID HDD
errors.  Scary stuff.  Google's been logging on remotely for
2 days
trying to fix it.

On Oct 15, 6:59 am, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like you are going to be out of luck.
>
> On 10 Oct, 20:58, eric <eric.ol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i am definately NOT a fan of having to use the 4.x
gsa + a windows
> > server with iis in order to use the access
connectors. i'm glad to see
> > the 5.x release and cannot wait to get my hands on
it!
>
> > On Oct 10, 1:27 pm, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Google has released today a new version of
the GSA sofware (version
> > > 5.0), which is the first release after 8
months.
>
> > > See press release (http://
www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/
> > > 20071010_gsa5.html) and official blog
(http://
> > >
googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2007/10/five-years-of-evolutio
n-in-
> > > enterprise.html).
>
> > > I don't think the actual update files are yet
available on the support
> > > site.
>
> > > >From the info available so far, it seems
that the new release is
>
> > > focusing on connectors to acquire more
external content. This is often
> > > perceived as a limitation of the GSA compared
to other entreprise
> > > solutions, and is also a smart move for
Google, whose licensing model
> > > is based on the number of documents
indexed... (more documents=more
> > > money).
>
> > > It is not obvious yet on whether the
connectors are running directly
> > > inside a GSA (onboard connectors), or still
require a separate server
> > > for some code to run. If so, this wouldn't be
such a big step forward
> > > or difference from what was already
available.
>
> > > Also, Google has created an entreprise lab
(http://www.google.com/
> > > enterprise/labs/), with some examples of code
available to enhance the
> > > user experience. However, looks like most of
those examples require an
> > > external Apache/Php/MySQL environment to run,
so not too much related
> > > to the GSA itself, and moving away from a
turnkey, "easy to deploy",
> > > self-contained solution (Google's target
customers are not probably
> > > companies with internal development expertise
on php and other
> > > scripting languages...)
>
> > > Installing the new release will surely tell
us more, and we will also
> > > see if any of the suggestions made by the
customers, on this group or
> > > elsewhere, have been taken into account.
>
> > > Please share your opinions.
>
> > > Seb- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -


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Ouch I'm not so sure I should update hehe 

Where can I fidn the release notes?

I found this :

ht
tp://www.google.com/enterprise/gsa/features.html

But it seams more or less like official release notes.

Thanks

On Oct 17, 11:09 am, "7lay...gmail.com"
<7lay...gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know how everyone else fared, but the 5.0
update failed on
> both of my GSAs.  One failed in the firmware update and
the other
> failed in the software update.  I followed all the
procedures in the
> update how-to and I pasted the file URL into each
device to let it
> take care of the procedure automatically.
>
> Both devices are still serving search but I can't log
on to the admin
> console of one of them, and the other reports at least
2 RAID HDD
> errors.  Scary stuff.  Google's been logging on
remotely for 2 days
> trying to fix it.
>
> On Oct 15, 6:59 am, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like you are going to be out of luck.
>
> > On 10 Oct, 20:58, eric <eric.ol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > i am definately NOT a fan of having to use
the 4.x gsa + a windows
> > > server with iis in order to use the access
connectors. i'm glad to see
> > > the 5.x release and cannot wait to get my
hands on it!
>
> > > On Oct 10, 1:27 pm, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Google has released today a new version
of the GSA sofware (version
> > > > 5.0), which is the first release after 8
months.
>
> > > > See press release (http://
www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/
> > > > 20071010_gsa5.html) and official blog
(http://
> > > >
googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2007/10/five-years-of-evolutio
n-in-
> > > > enterprise.html).
>
> > > > I don't think the actual update files
are yet available on the support
> > > > site.
>
> > > > >From the info available so far, it
seems that the new release is
>
> > > > focusing on connectors to acquire more
external content. This is often
> > > > perceived as a limitation of the GSA
compared to other entreprise
> > > > solutions, and is also a smart move for
Google, whose licensing model
> > > > is based on the number of documents
indexed... (more documents=more
> > > > money).
>
> > > > It is not obvious yet on whether the
connectors are running directly
> > > > inside a GSA (onboard connectors), or
still require a separate server
> > > > for some code to run. If so, this
wouldn't be such a big step forward
> > > > or difference from what was already
available.
>
> > > > Also, Google has created an entreprise
lab (http://www.google.com/
> > > > enterprise/labs/), with some examples of
code available to enhance the
> > > > user experience. However, looks like
most of those examples require an
> > > > external Apache/Php/MySQL environment to
run, so not too much related
> > > > to the GSA itself, and moving away from
a turnkey, "easy to deploy",
> > > > self-contained solution (Google's target
customers are not probably
> > > > companies with internal development
expertise on php and other
> > > > scripting languages...)
>
> > > > Installing the new release will surely
tell us more, and we will also
> > > > see if any of the suggestions made by
the customers, on this group or
> > > > elsewhere, have been taken into
account.
>
> > > > Please share your opinions.
>
> > > > Seb- Hide quoted text -
>
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You can find the release notes on the support site
(password
protected). http://support.g
oogle.com/enterprise

On 17 Oct, 17:38, Sébastien Richer <sebastienric...gmail.com> wrote:
> Ouch I'm not so sure I should update hehe 
>
> Where can I fidn the release notes?
>
> I found this :
>
> ht
tp://www.google.com/enterprise/gsa/features.html
>
> But it seams more or less like official release notes.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Oct 17, 11:09 am, "7lay...gmail.com" <7lay...gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I don't know how everyone else fared, but the 5.0
update failed on
> > both of my GSAs.  One failed in the firmware
update and the other
> > failed in the software update.  I followed all the
procedures in the
> > update how-to and I pasted the file URL into each
device to let it
> > take care of the procedure automatically.
>
> > Both devices are still serving search but I can't
log on to the admin
> > console of one of them, and the other reports at
least 2 RAID HDD
> > errors.  Scary stuff.  Google's been logging on
remotely for 2 days
> > trying to fix it.
>
> > On Oct 15, 6:59 am, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Looks like you are going to be out of luck.
>
> > > On 10 Oct, 20:58, eric <eric.ol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > i am definately NOT a fan of having to
use the 4.x gsa + a windows
> > > > server with iis in order to use the
access connectors. i'm glad to see
> > > > the 5.x release and cannot wait to get
my hands on it!
>
> > > > On Oct 10, 1:27 pm, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Google has released today a new
version of the GSA sofware (version
> > > > > 5.0), which is the first release
after 8 months.
>
> > > > > See press release (http://
www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/
> > > > > 20071010_gsa5.html) and official
blog (http://
> > > > >
googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2007/10/five-years-of-evolutio
n-in-
> > > > > enterprise.html).
>
> > > > > I don't think the actual update
files are yet available on the support
> > > > > site.
>
> > > > > >From the info available so far,
it seems that the new release is
>
> > > > > focusing on connectors to acquire
more external content. This is often
> > > > > perceived as a limitation of the
GSA compared to other entreprise
> > > > > solutions, and is also a smart move
for Google, whose licensing model
> > > > > is based on the number of documents
indexed... (more documents=more
> > > > > money).
>
> > > > > It is not obvious yet on whether
the connectors are running directly
> > > > > inside a GSA (onboard connectors),
or still require a separate server
> > > > > for some code to run. If so, this
wouldn't be such a big step forward
> > > > > or difference from what was already
available.
>
> > > > > Also, Google has created an
entreprise lab (http://www.google.com/
> > > > > enterprise/labs/), with some
examples of code available to enhance the
> > > > > user experience. However, looks
like most of those examples require an
> > > > > external Apache/Php/MySQL
environment to run, so not too much related
> > > > > to the GSA itself, and moving away
from a turnkey, "easy to deploy",
> > > > > self-contained solution (Google's
target customers are not probably
> > > > > companies with internal development
expertise on php and other
> > > > > scripting languages...)
>
> > > > > Installing the new release will
surely tell us more, and we will also
> > > > > see if any of the suggestions made
by the customers, on this group or
> > > > > elsewhere, have been taken into
account.
>
> > > > > Please share your opinions.
>
> > > > > Seb- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text
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>
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I also received the same error after upgrading the system. 
It went
away after updating the software though.  My updates went
great.  No
problems at all.

On Oct 17, 10:35 am, "Colin Neale"
<neale.co...gmail.com> wrote:
> My upgrade worked but like you I my GSA reported at
least 2 RAID HDD errors
> following the system upgrade. I went ahead with the
software upgrade anyway
> and the RAID errors miraculously went away. My gut feel
is that there was
> never any disk problems at all as it all seemed a bit
of a coincidence.
>
> Anyone else notice the same?
>
> Good luck getting the problems resolved. Colin.
>
> On 18/10/2007, 7lay...gmail.com <7lay...gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I don't know how everyone else fared, but the 5.0
update failed on
> > both of my GSAs.  One failed in the firmware
update and the other
> > failed in the software update.  I followed all the
procedures in the
> > update how-to and I pasted the file URL into each
device to let it
> > take care of the procedure automatically.
>
> > Both devices are still serving search but I can't
log on to the admin
> > console of one of them, and the other reports at
least 2 RAID HDD
> > errors.  Scary stuff.  Google's been logging on
remotely for 2 days
> > trying to fix it.
>
> > On Oct 15, 6:59 am, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Looks like you are going to be out of luck.
>
> > > On 10 Oct, 20:58, eric <eric.ol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > i am definately NOT a fan of having to
use the 4.x gsa + a windows
> > > > server with iis in order to use the
access connectors. i'm glad to see
> > > > the 5.x release and cannot wait to get
my hands on it!
>
> > > > On Oct 10, 1:27 pm, Seb <sol...gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Google has released today a new
version of the GSA sofware (version
> > > > > 5.0), which is the first release
after 8 months.
>
> > > > > See press release (http://
www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/
> > > > > 20071010_gsa5.html) and official
blog (http://
> > > > >
googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2007/10/five-years-of-evolutio
n-in-
> > > > > enterprise.html).
>
> > > > > I don't think the actual update
files are yet available on the
> > support
> > > > > site.
>
> > > > > >From the info available so far,
it seems that the new release is
>
> > > > > focusing on connectors to acquire
more external content. This is
> > often
> > > > > perceived as a limitation of the
GSA compared to other entreprise
> > > > > solutions, and is also a smart move
for Google, whose licensing
> > model
> > > > > is based on the number of documents
indexed... (more documents=more
> > > > > money).
>
> > > > > It is not obvious yet on whether
the connectors are running directly
> > > > > inside a GSA (onboard connectors),
or still require a separate
> > server
> > > > > for some code to run. If so, this
wouldn't be such a big step
> > forward
> > > > > or difference from what was already
available.
>
> > > > > Also, Google has created an
entreprise lab (http://www.google.com/
> > > > > enterprise/labs/), with some
examples of code available to enhance
> > the
> > > > > user experience. However, looks
like most of those examples require
> > an
> > > > > external Apache/Php/MySQL
environment to run, so not too much
> > related
> > > > > to the GSA itself, and moving away
from a turnkey, "easy to deploy",
> > > > > self-contained solution (Google's
target customers are not probably
> > > > > companies with internal development
expertise on php and other
> > > > > scripting languages...)
>
> > > > > Installing the new release will
surely tell us more, and we will
> > also
> > > > > see if any of the suggestions made
by the customers, on this group
> > or
> > > > > elsewhere, have been taken into
account.
>
> > > > > Please share your opinions.
>
> > > > > Seb- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> --
> Regards Colin


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We don't have any use for connectors. Is there anything else
that
would prompt an upgrade? I looked for a "new
features" document but
haven't come across it yet. I also attended the webinair but
it seemed
rather fluffy to me.

I think it is ridiculous that we can't utilize the built in
Apache/Php/
MySQL environment on the GSA to load the custom lab code. Of
course, I
would also like to simply be able to edit the host file!

So, bottom line, is there any reason to upgrade if we aren't
in need
of the connectors?


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