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* Google no longer actively supporting the SOAP Search API -
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* SOAP Search API - passive support from Google - CHANGES -
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* Need SOAP search API key ? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* frustrated with not getting key - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Google no longer actively supporting the SOAP Search
API
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 16 2006 3:57 am
From: "chovy"
Manfred wrote:
> chovy:
> > > > I am working on a application that
requires SOAP API, so if I let
> > > > people use it, then only those with
existing SOAP keys can use it.
> Manfred:
> > > How could the user know for sure what the
application will do
> > > with his key ?
> chovy:
> > Not sure I follow your logic here, how can you be
sure of anything when
> > you use an application written by someone else?
> For most web-based applications the user is _not_
required to supply
> personal information. But in this case the user got a
_key_ for
> personal
> use only because of an agreement between him and
Google. He is
> bound by the "Terms and Conditions" and can
be held accountable
> for it (he might be identified by Google with the key).
It's very
> similar
> to giving away your password ...
>
> Manfred:
> > > In any case, this idea is dead by now.
> chovy:
> > This idea is used on every Google SOAP API
application I've
> > come across,
> this is called selective perception ...
> chovy:
> > so I dont' know why you think it's
"dead".
> the user cannot get a new key anymore.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Manfred
Thanks for your input Manfred. I take it that it's against
ToS to give
someone else your API key, even if their app required it. I
am unsure
how Google would hold someone "responsible" for
it. What possible harm
could happen, other than hitting your 1,000 limit for the
day? It isn't
like a password, because a password could be used to gain
access to
privileged information.
All the api key does it let someone query Google - unless of
course I
can be identified by my API key, or my Google account
compromised,
which I am unaware of as being a possibility.
> this is called selective perception ...
...if that makes you feel better, sure I'm ok with being
"selective".
As I said, I've only concentrated on seo-related api tools,
the
majority of which after becoming popular either shutdown or
switch to
this model unless they want to only server 1,000 requests a
day. I
asked google for an increase awhile back and was denied, as
I'm sure
others were as well. The only choice to continue then would
be to store
peoples' API key...am I correct?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 16 2006 7:28 am
From: "softplus"
I just want to add that I'm disappointed about this
decision. AJAX is
close to useless for anything more than just a search box -
and those
plain-search boxes can be had in lots of variations anyway.
Everything
that requires filtering or extracting of information can't
be done --
we might as well have a Google search iframe, only the AJAX
version
requires certain browser functionality :-(.
How long will the SOAP API remain online?
This is effectively pushing those developers who spent a lot
of time
and effort working to make more out of Googles search either
to
competitors or towards breaking the ToS: collecting +
selling API keys
(already seen that), scraping web-search (seen that) and
maybe even
scraping the AJAX API results (possible, but probably
unnecessary). Sad
....
Google, what is your suggestion: what should the developers
of those
tools do now? Going to AJAX is not a solution for us.
John
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TOPIC: SOAP Search API - passive support from Google -
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 16 2006 7:31 am
From: "softplus"
>Can I scrape the search results from the Google AJAX
Search API if the API
>doesn't meet my needs?
>
>Sorry, but no; the AJAX Search API is the only
permissible way to publish
>Google AJAX Search API results on your site. We'll block
your application
>if it accesses search results outside of the API.
from http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxsearch/faq.html#scrape
:-(
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TOPIC: Need SOAP search API key ?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 16 2006 7:31 am
From: "softplus"
I need some too 
John
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TOPIC: frustrated with not getting key
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 16 2006 7:32 am
From: "softplus"
Too late now, no more keys left :-(
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TOPIC: Using search API
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 16 2006 7:34 am
From: "softplus"
They no longer offer keys for the SOAP API. You'll have to
use AJAX,
scrape the web results or use Yahoo.
John
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