Re: Extracting and converrting

While you will be able to burn H.264 to a conventional DVD authored
for either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, the patent holders will never license
their patents to manufactures to allow them to manufacture a "HD"
player that plays HD on conventional DVDs. Even if possible, it would
cannibalize sales of the new generation HD DVD machines.

Look to China to come up with another HD DVD standard that will allow
you to author standard DVDs in some other fashion and then they will
manufacture machines that will play them; not unlike what happened 10
years ago, when the Chinese came up with a standard in competition to
DVD that did not require the royalty payments (unfortunately, it did
not find acceptance in the marketplace).

--- In hdtivo%40yahoogroups.com">hdtivoyahoogroups.com, Mike Kehrli <mikekehrli...> wrote:
&gt;
> Hmmm. We're getting there. But for the last year or two, I've been
> trying to find an app that will transcode HD mpeg2 files into the
latest
> and greatest mp4 (h.264) or WinMedia (I forget what they call the open
> standard version, VS-1 or sumpin), that are used on store bought HD-DVD
> and Blu-Ray discs. It's been over 6 months since I tried, but I
> couldn't find anything that would transcode HD content reliably.
>
> My goal is to find an app to transcode to the compression high
enough to
> fit a movie on a DVD disc (cheap), and find a player that will play a
> DVD format disc, but can decode the high compression HD content, and
> deliver it in HD (I think the new Sigma codec chip can do this, but all
> the popular media players and even the high end ones, based on the
older
> chip can't keep up). I figure they're both just around the corner now.
>;
>

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I'm not talkng about burning to HD-DVD or Blu-ray discs.&nbsp; I'm talking about making an H.264 file (mpeg4), that can be played on a media player.

H.264 and VS-1 are open standards.  There's nothing to stop a manufacturer from making a device that plays HD content from these types of files.&nbsp; It would only be illegal to crack the encryption and play back the copyrighted content.&nbsp; I'm talking about recording and playing back un-encrypted content, but using these codecs because a) they are open standard, b) there are many apps that understand them, and c) they can compress HD content sufficiently to get a normal sized HD movie onto a recordable DVD, yet retain the HD quality.

The only thing holding back the players is that it takes buku (lots of) computing power to uncompress this format.&nbsp; 

Michael wrote:

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While you will be able to burn H.264 to a conventional DVD authored
for either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, the patent holders will never license
their patents to manufactures to allow them to manufacture a "HD"
player that plays HD on conventional DVDs.  Even if possible, it would
cannibalize sales of the new generation HD DVD machines.


Look to China to come up with another HD DVD standard that will allow
you to author standard DVDs in some other fashion and then they will
manufacture machines that will play them; not unlike what happened 10
years ago, when the Chinese came up with a standard in competition to
DVD that did not require the royalty payments (unfortunately, it did
not find acceptance in the marketplace).

--- In hdtivoyahoogroups.com, Mike Kehrli ..."><mikekehrli...> wrote:
  

Hmmm.  We're getting there.  But for the last year or two, I've been 
trying to find an app that will transcode HD mpeg2 files into the
    

latest 
  

and greatest mp4 (h.264) or WinMedia (I forget what they call the open 
standard version, VS-1 or sumpin), that are used on store bought HD-DVD 
and Blu-Ray discs.  It's been over 6 months since I tried, but I 
couldn't find anything that would transcode HD content reliably.


My goal is to find an app to transcode to the compression high
    

enough to 
  

fit a movie on a DVD disc (cheap), and find a player that will play a 
DVD format disc, but can decode the high compression HD content, and 
deliver it in HD (I think the new Sigma codec chip can do this, but all 
the popular media players and even the high end ones, based on the
    

older 
  

chip can't keep up).  I figure they're both just around the corner now.


    

 
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