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Thread: SMIL / UDP versus TCP IP




SMIL / UDP versus TCP IP
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2006-04-30 17:14:39
> Let me make sure I have this right:
> (1) you have a playlist of RM videos in a SMIL 2.0 file
(or is it SMIL 
> 1.0?) that:
> (2) play one at a time (in sequence)
> (3) in their own timelines
> (4) via rtsp://
> (5) and there are no other media elements (images,
text, ...etc.) in 
> the presentation,
> (6) and, when you force your player to use UDP, you
have problems 
> *only* when playing the SMIL URL in an embedded player.


(1) SMIL 1.0, using <Par> en <Seq>, I will check
(2) yes
(3) yes, using clip-begin and clip-end tags
(4) yes
(5) yes
(6) yes

>
> Could you try it in Firefox as well as IE (or other)
browsers to see 
> if the problem is the same in each?  I'm far from an
expert on the 
> embedded player; it may be that your browser is using
older installed 
> components (?).  You should really include 
> player-devhelixcommunity.org list on this thread.

I'll do this...
I belief the test was in IE.....




>
> One thing you should try is to add
<seq>...</seq> around your playlist 
> to force it to be an all-one-timeline presentation.  In
the following, 
> VERSION1 plays 10minVid.rm for its natural duration of
10 minutes and 
> has a 10-minute timeline slider, then it starts a new
7-minute 
> timeline to play 7minVid.rm.  VERSION2 has a
<seq> wrapped around 
> everything which forces it all to play in a single
17-minute 
> timeline.  Buffering between clips should be seamless
in both cases, 
> but you may find that VERSION1 has buffering issues (in
the embedded 
> player) and that VERSION2 does not.  Let us know what
you find:
>
> <!-- VERSION1: -->
> <smil xmlns="http://www.w3.
org/2001/SMIL20/Language">
>  <body>
>    <video
src="rtsp://someServer/10minVid.rm">
>    <video
src="rtsp://someServer/7minVid.rm">
>  </body>
> </smil>
>
> <!-- VERSION2: -->
> <smil xmlns="http://www.w3.
org/2001/SMIL20/Language">
>  <body>
>    <seq>
>    <video
src="rtsp://someServer/10minVid.rm">
>    <video
src="rtsp://someServer/7minVid.rm">
>    </seq>
>  </body>
> </smil>


I belief its SMIL 1.0

using the <PAR> command, which makes it to one
"virtual" clip with a new 
timeline...

leading to

<body>
<par>
   <seq>
   <video
src="rtsp://someServer/10minVid.rm">
   <video
src="rtsp://someServer/7minVid.rm">
   </seq>
</par>
 </body>


I belief the <par> is also needed to enfore that the
preroll of each 
sequence in the <seq> is prebufferd...
Jus a Ram file with sequences will not lead to a seamless
playback of 
clips as far as I know...
I'm not an expert in this, but since UDP is based on the
fact that 
packets can get lost and client server intercation is
minimised to a 
minumum, I can imagine that in in SMIL presentations in
which 
prebuffering of playlists need to occur UDP is less reliable
than TCP / 
IP...

On  the other hand the issue seems to be more tight to the
fact wether 
the player is embedded or not...


>
>>
>> Two questions:
>>
>> 1) is TCP/Ip indeed advised for
"complicated" SMIL presentations, 
>> i.e. better than UDP
>
>
> A playlist of videos (no parallel track, no excl's, no
media added on 
> event, ...etc.) is not a very complicated SMIL
presentation.  Try 
> using a RAM file instead and see if you get the same
results.  A RAM 
> file is just this format where the URLs are played in
sequence:
>
> URL1
> URL2
> URL3
> ...
> URLn
>
>> 2) is emebding the RealOne player known to
"influence" SMIL playback 
>> reliability... ?
>
>
> Not that I know of; player-devhelixcommunity.org would be
a good list 
> for that question.
>
>    - Erik
>
>>
>> Setting:
>> Latest RealOne player
>> OS: win XP
>> Helix 11 server
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gural
>

Regards,

Gural



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