Authentication for clusters

Hi,

 I am new on the list but not new with Bioclusters. I am
trying to
setup an authentication system for our 64 node cluster that
integrates
with our web services (all Apache/PHP based) and our desktop
management
(mix of XP, Mac OS X and Linux). At the moment there's no
authentication
platform for any of these (other then local files). Is there
a
commercial solution that you might recommend that integrates
authentication among all these plaforms ? I checked on
Vintela and
Novell but I wanted to know what other people are doing. I
could just
run a secure OpenLDAP but its management tools leave much to
be
desidered and our management prefers commercial tools for
businees
continuity purposes. 

Any ideas ? Thanks much,

Luigi--
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Hi Luigi

Luigi Manna wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  I am new on the list but not new with Bioclusters. I
am trying to
> setup an authentication system for our 64 node cluster
that integrates
> with our web services (all Apache/PHP based) and our
desktop management
> (mix of XP, Mac OS X and Linux). At the moment there's
no authentication
> platform for any of these (other then local files).

Hmmm...

> Is there a
> commercial solution that you might recommend that
integrates
> authentication among all these plaforms ? I checked on
Vintela and
> Novell but I wanted to know what other people are
doing. I could just
> run a secure OpenLDAP but its management tools leave
much to be
> desidered and our management prefers commercial tools
for businees
> continuity purposes. 

There are a variety of directory server products out there. 
Fedora
Directory Server is available from RedHat.  LDAP with a nice
java-ish
user interface.  Sun has a directory server available, as do
Novell, and
many others, including Microsoft.  Linux,OSX,XP can/should
be able to
integrate with all of these.  There are others as well.

Simply depends upon how hard you want to work, how much you
want to
spend on fancy tools.

> 
> Any ideas ? Thanks much,
> 
> Luigi--
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On 27 Jun 2006, at 3:19 am, Luigi Manna wrote:

> Hi,
>
>  I am new on the list but not new with Bioclusters. I
am trying to
> setup an authentication system for our 64 node cluster
that integrates
> with our web services (all Apache/PHP based) and our
desktop  
> management
> (mix of XP, Mac OS X and Linux). At the moment there's
no  
> authentication
> platform for any of these (other then local files). Is
there a
> commercial solution that you might recommend that
integrates
> authentication among all these plaforms ? I checked on
Vintela and
> Novell but I wanted to know what other people are
doing. I could just
> run a secure OpenLDAP but its management tools leave
much to be
> desidered and our management prefers commercial tools
for businees
> continuity purposes.

I've never investigated it in depth, but Mac OS X Server
seems  
capable of providing a nice centralised authentication
server for all  
three platforms.   I must have a go one of these days, in my
copious  
spare time.

Tim
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Hello Luigi,

I recently set up a system like the one you describe (ours
works with
XP, OSX, Linux, and Solaris) and after researching I decided
to go
with OpenLDAP and Samba.  I personally never found a
seamless
comercial solution I was happy with and at least with the
open source
tools you weren't dealing with yet another black box.

Since you asked on this list, were you looking for a
solution that is
going to be scalable to a large cluster, or is this just for
your
servers and workstations?

Mike Edwards
UTSA/UTHSCSA Joint Computational Biology Facility

On 6/26/06, Joe Landman <landmanscalableinformatics.com>
wrote:
> Hi Luigi
>
> Luigi Manna wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >  I am new on the list but not new with
Bioclusters. I am trying to
> > setup an authentication system for our 64 node
cluster that integrates
> > with our web services (all Apache/PHP based) and
our desktop management
> > (mix of XP, Mac OS X and Linux). At the moment
there's no authentication
> > platform for any of these (other then local
files).
>
> Hmmm...
>
> > Is there a
> > commercial solution that you might recommend that
integrates
> > authentication among all these plaforms ? I
checked on Vintela and
> > Novell but I wanted to know what other people are
doing. I could just
> > run a secure OpenLDAP but its management tools
leave much to be
> > desidered and our management prefers commercial
tools for businees
> > continuity purposes.
>
> There are a variety of directory server products out
there.  Fedora
> Directory Server is available from RedHat.  LDAP with a
nice java-ish
> user interface.  Sun has a directory server available,
as do Novell, and
> many others, including Microsoft.  Linux,OSX,XP
can/should be able to
> integrate with all of these.  There are others as well.
>
> Simply depends upon how hard you want to work, how much
you want to
> spend on fancy tools.
>
> >
> > Any ideas ? Thanks much,
> >
> > Luigi--
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bioclusters maillist  -  Bioclustersbioinformatics.org
> > https://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/bioclusters
>
> --
> Joseph Landman, Ph.D
> Founder and CEO
> Scalable Informatics LLC,
> email: landmanscalableinformatics.com
> web  : http://www.scalabl
einformatics.com
> phone: +1 734 786 8423
> fax  : +1 734 786 8452 or +1 866 888 3112
> cell : +1 734 612 4615
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>>> On 6/27/2006 at 7:09 am, in message
<8d71b5680606270709y361f344fmf037ec69f729bda0mail.gmail.com>,
miedwardgmail.com wrote:
> Hello Luigi,
> 
> I recently set up a system like the one you describe
(ours works
with
> XP, OSX, Linux, and Solaris) and after researching I
decided to go
> with OpenLDAP and Samba.  I personally never found a
seamless
> comercial solution I was happy with and at least with
the open
source
> tools you weren't dealing with yet another black box.

   Samba + OpenLDAP last time I checked was very difficult
to implement
with little management tools .. some sort of arcane art ! 
One of the Samba developers during a a Samba tutorials
actually showed
us how complicated this is. Is your solution using
certificates and SSL
? Someone suggested using Mac OS X, did you look into that ?

> 
> Since you asked on this list, were you looking for a
solution that
is
> going to be scalable to a large cluster, or is this
just for your
> servers and workstations?
> 

  I need a solution scalable to a 64 node cluster and maybe
more even
though I think 2 LDAP/AD/eDirectory/ would suffice. The
solution needs
to be also easy to manage since personnel is scarce.

Thanks,

Luigi--

> Mike Edwards
> UTSA/UTHSCSA Joint Computational Biology Facility
> 
> On 6/26/06, Joe Landman <landmanscalableinformatics.com> wrote:
>> Hi Luigi
>>
>> Luigi Manna wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >  I am new on the list but not new with
Bioclusters. I am trying
to
>> > setup an authentication system for our 64 node
cluster that
integrates
>> > with our web services (all Apache/PHP based)
and our desktop
management
>> > (mix of XP, Mac OS X and Linux). At the moment
there's no
authentication
>> > platform for any of these (other then local
files).
>>
>> Hmmm...
>>
>> > Is there a
>> > commercial solution that you might recommend
that integrates
>> > authentication among all these plaforms ? I
checked on Vintela
and
>> > Novell but I wanted to know what other people
are doing. I could
just
>> > run a secure OpenLDAP but its management tools
leave much to be
>> > desidered and our management prefers
commercial tools for
businees
>> > continuity purposes.
>>
>> There are a variety of directory server products
out there.  Fedora
>> Directory Server is available from RedHat.  LDAP
with a nice
java-ish
>> user interface.  Sun has a directory server
available, as do Novell,
and
>> many others, including Microsoft.  Linux,OSX,XP
can/should be able
to
>> integrate with all of these.  There are others as
well.
>>
>> Simply depends upon how hard you want to work, how
much you want to
>> spend on fancy tools.
>>
>> >
>> > Any ideas ? Thanks much,
>> >
>> > Luigi--
>> >
_______________________________________________
>> > Bioclusters maillist  -  Bioclustersbioinformatics.org 
>> > https://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/bioclusters 
>>
>> --
>> Joseph Landman, Ph.D
>> Founder and CEO
>> Scalable Informatics LLC,
>> email: landmanscalableinformatics.com 
>> web  : http://www.scalabl
einformatics.com 
>> phone: +1 734 786 8423
>> fax  : +1 734 786 8452 or +1 866 888 3112
>> cell : +1 734 612 4615
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bioclusters maillist  -  Bioclustersbioinformatics.org 
>> https://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/bioclusters 
>>
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