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| RE: VB Web applications |
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2007-01-19 20:32:52 |
Hi Brian,
>> (1) Can anyone please provide the URLs....
None that I know of, but perhaps someone else
knows about this. Normally there has to be
something on your Local Machine that can
talk to the Server, and display what the
Server Side Code sends back to your machine.
Don't know of a way that your machine can
reach out there and touch the buttons on
the Server Application without having
something on your machine that was
designed for that purpose.
>> (2)...
If the actual application was located on another
machine, 'out there, on the Web', like a Server,
then your Local Machine would need to have
something on it that your machine could
interface with, talk with, or 'hook-up with'.
Your Web Browser could be your 'interface', or
a client app ( written in VB, Dot Net, C++ )
on your machine could talk to
the server app/program.
Web sites like Amazon dot Com are examples of
very sophisticated code that makes use of a
great many tools, languages, and magic < g >
Cascading Style Sheets, Javascript, Java, ASP,
PHP script, Perl scripts, VB script, C#, Flash,
and HTML, combine with really big Databases,
and the code associated with the database(s).
And all of that works together on many
expensive Servers to quickly provide
you and me with a pretty web page
in our default web browser.
Plus, I probably forgot to mention some other
important pieces of the puzzle that are
necessary to make 'www.Amazon.Com' work.
...or, did I totally miss your question ?
>>> (3) Can a simple web application
>>> be written with VB5 ?
Something similar to VB-5/6 called VB Script,
plus a modicum of HTNL code / Tags.
Your code on the Hosting Web Server must
produce code that makes the client's
Web Browser present something to the User.
It could be as simple as: " Hello World "
being shown on the User's Browser page.
All The Best,
Steve
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9:34 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2007
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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:44 PM
To: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [helpwithvb] VB Web applications
(1) Can anyone please provide the URLs for a website or two
where
anyone at all (i.e. knowing nothing of VB) connected to the
net can
operate a VB application on it, just as if we were doing it
(while not
connected to the `net) from (say) VB6 installed on our PC ?
(2) Are websites like Amazon basically examples of this i.e.
VB web
applications ?
(3) Can a simple web application be written with VB5 ?
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| Re: VB Web applications |
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2007-01-20 08:15:15 |
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Many thanks for
that Steve. Most of it went over my head. You probably recall that I’m not in
the same league as most of you out there - just a retired old fart who enjoys
playing with VB5 partly to stop my brain from atrophying in old age, and partly
because I’m hooked on it anyway.
What
prompted my enquiry was something I spotted in a book called “Pure Visual Basic”
by Dan Fox published by Sams as long ago as 1999. Chapt. 17 is called “Building
Web Applications” and starts: “Beginning with Version 6, Visual Basic includes
two new types of applications that enable VB developers to …..build web-based
applications. These…are known as IIS applications and DHTML applications. The
fundamental difference….is that IIS applications run on the web server (“Internet Information Server”) whereas DHTML applications run
their code within MSIE. IIS applications enable you to build browser-independent
applications whereas DHTML applications execute their code within MSIE. Because
this is a new topic to many developers, this chapter…introduces both
types"
I don’t
understand most of that, but feel it’s difficult to interpret it other than as
meaning that VB applications can be run on the Internet. If, in order to do
that, you would need to have VB installed on the PC whose browser you were using
to look at the Internet, what would be the point of it ? I’ve obviously
misunderstood something very fundamental, but what ?
Thanks,
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:32
AM
Subject: RE: [helpwithvb] VB Web
applications
Hi Brian,
>> (1) Can anyone please provide the
URLs....
None that I know of, but perhaps someone else
knows about
this. Normally there has to be
something on your Local Machine that
can
talk to the Server, and display what the
Server Side Code sends back
to your machine.
Don't know of a way that your machine can
reach out
there and touch the buttons on
the Server Application without
having
something on your machine that was
designed for that
purpose.
>> (2)...
If the actual application was located
on another
machine, 'out there, on the Web', like a Server,
then your
Local Machine would need to have
something on it that your machine
could
interface with, talk with, or 'hook-up with'.
Your Web Browser
could be your 'interface', or
a client app ( written in VB, Dot Net, C++
)
on your machine could talk to
the server app/program.
Web
sites like Amazon dot Com are examples of
very sophisticated code that
makes use of a
great many tools, languages, and magic < g
>
Cascading Style Sheets, Javascript, Java, ASP,
PHP script, Perl
scripts, VB script, C#, Flash,
and HTML, combine with really big
Databases,
and the code associated with the database(s).
And all of
that works together on many
expensive Servers to quickly provide
you and
me with a pretty web page
in our default web browser.
Plus, I
probably forgot to mention some other
important pieces of the puzzle that
are
necessary to make 'www.Amazon.Com' work.
...or, did I
totally miss your question ?
>>;> (3) Can a simple web
application
>>> be written with VB5 ?
Something similar to
VB-5/6 called VB Script,
plus a modicum of HTNL code / Tags.
Your
code on the Hosting Web Server must
produce code that makes the
client's
Web Browser present something to the User.
It could be as
simple as: " Hello World "
being shown on the User's Browser
page.
All The Best,
Steve
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9:34 PM EST Friday, January 19,
2007
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.
.
From: helpwithvb yahoogroups.com
[mailto:helpwithvbyahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of brianshieldhouse
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:44 PM
To:
helpwithvbyahoogroups.com
Subject:
[helpwithvb] VB Web applications
(1) Can anyone please provide the URLs
for a website or two where
anyone at all (i.e. knowing nothing of VB)
connected to the net can
operate a VB application on it, just as if we
were doing it (while not
connected to the `net) from (say) VB6 installed
on our PC ?
(2) Are websites like Amazon basically examples of this i.e. VB
web
applications ?
(3) Can a simple web application be written with
VB5 ?
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