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United States |
2007-03-05 16:13:14 |
Steve,
I just got a Toshiba 12" laptop. I wanted a small light
machine and the Sony
Vaio 11" was just too small (to say nothing about
pricey!!!)
T7200 Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD. The display
is 1280x800. It
has a spill resistant keyboard, fingerprint security, and a
magnesium alloy
case.
There really isn't much of a choice these days...new
machines have Vista on
them, that's the way it is. Even if you order a new Dell,
you have to
specify XP as an option because Vista is now the 'standard'
OS shipping on
new systems.
The price for this little jewel was a bit less than $1500,
which I didn't
find too unreasonable.
/tr
_____________________________________________
From: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Manser
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:04 PM
To: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [helpwithvb] Vista scares me (was "App
Path")
Hi Mike,
In the USA, the stores, distributors, et al,
seem to be pushing the computer models
that are 'Vista Capable'.
Read that as: 'the bare-bones-model'.
I don't think that they mention during the
sales process that if you really want the
entire Vista Package, or 'experience',
that you need to spend some serious extra
money for one to 2 Gig of RAM, and
a really nice Graphics/Video/Thingie card.
Bigger hard drive would be nice, at today's
prices we can get a lot, but the really
important bit, after the RAM, is the
Processor, which should be new and shiny
and quick and ultra fast.
Think 'Cray' of just a few years ago < g >
I think there are going to be a few, or more,
who are very disappointed with their new
'Vista Experience'.
With a new machine, built with the necessary
upgrades, beyond and past the bare bones models,
Vista probably has much to offer, but like Bruce
I will probably sit on my hands until we get
up to Service Pack 'X'
Just a thought,
Steve
From: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Bouffler
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:26 PM
To: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [helpwithvb] Vista scares me (was "App
Path")
Wouldn't like to install it on any machine that's in use so
I used the
normal method and bought a new cheap laptop with it on 
Not had time to play too much yet, but the built in full
restore from the
hard disk looks handy for testing installs (20 mins and it's
back to factory
condition).
Regards
MikeB
-----Original Message-----
From: Neiger, Bruce D [mailto:Bruce.D.Neiger parsons.com]
Sent: 05 March 2007 17:00
To: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [helpwithvb] Vista scares me (was "App
Path")
Me? I am avoiding Vista until AT LEAST Service Pack 1,
Maybe 2.
One article in a computer magazine extorts folks to upgrade
to Vista now,
since they will be doing so eventually, and so get the
benefits of this new
OS earlier.
A recent article in Forbes absolutely took Vista apart
(along with Office
2007, although to a lesser extent). Problems (IIRC):
1) Whole new way of organizing menus, with no
"classic" option, 2) small
number of nontrivial incompatibilities with old files,
libraries, 3) loss of
support for some older, but still in play device drivers, 5)
Others that I
don't recall.
-BDN
--------
And btw, just to rant a bit... while Microsoft promised to
support vb6
applications on Vista they didn't ship all the dll's that
your programs
might need, so it's a big headache. Anyone using Vista yet
or deploying
applications to Vista?
Jamie
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| RE: Vista scares me (was "App
Path") |
United States |
2007-03-05 16:37:34 |
Nice addition to the arsenal Tim < g >
I was thinking more along the lines of what we
see being advertised by Circuit City, Best Buy,
Indigo's Computer Works, and Wal-Mart:
"Buy A New Computer, fully loaded with Vista: $ 700
"
They never see the Eye-Candy, and there may be a few
other issues because the hardware is not near the
top of the specifications table...
I was just trying to point out that with the Vista OS
everyone should be aware that the less expensive
machines will not give the User the same joy
that you are experiencing with your new toy.
...err, ....necessary business tool. My Bad < g >
Good to hear from you Tim,
Steve
.
5:35 PM EST Monday, March 05, 2007
.
( Wow, this came through without the Yahoo Stuff )
.
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_____________________________________________
From: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Timothy Rupp
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:13 PM
To: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [helpwithvb] Vista scares me (was "App
Path")
Steve,
I just got a Toshiba 12" laptop. I wanted a small light
machine and the Sony
Vaio 11" was just too small (to say nothing about
pricey!!!)
T7200 Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD. The display
is 1280x800. It
has a spill resistant keyboard, fingerprint security, and a
magnesium alloy
case.
There really isn't much of a choice these days...new
machines have Vista on
them, that's the way it is.
Even if you order a new Dell, you have to specify XP as an
option because
Vista is now the 'standard' OS shipping on new systems.
The price for this little jewel was a bit less than $1500,
which I didn't
find too unreasonable.
/tr
_____________________________________________
From: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Manser
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:04 PM
To: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [helpwithvb] Vista scares me (was "App
Path")
Hi Mike,
In the USA, the stores, distributors, et al,
seem to be pushing the computer models
that are 'Vista Capable'.
Read that as: 'the bare-bones-model'.
I don't think that they mention during the
sales process that if you really want the
entire Vista Package, or 'experience',
that you need to spend some serious extra
money for one to 2 Gig of RAM, and
a really nice Graphics/Video/Thingie card.
Bigger hard drive would be nice, at today's
prices we can get a lot, but the really
important bit, after the RAM, is the
Processor, which should be new and shiny
and quick and ultra fast.
Think 'Cray' of just a few years ago < g >
I think there are going to be a few, or more,
who are very disappointed with their new
'Vista Experience'.
With a new machine, built with the necessary
upgrades, beyond and past the bare bones models,
Vista probably has much to offer, but like Bruce
I will probably sit on my hands until we get
up to Service Pack 'X'
Just a thought,
Steve
From: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Bouffler
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:26 PM
To: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [helpwithvb] Vista scares me (was "App
Path")
Wouldn't like to install it on any machine that's in use so
I used the
normal method and bought a new cheap laptop with it on
Not had time to play too much yet, but the built in full
restore from the
hard disk looks handy for testing installs (20 mins and it's
back to factory
condition).
Regards
MikeB
-----Original Message-----
From: Neiger, Bruce D [mailto:Bruce.D.Neigerparsons.com]
Sent: 05 March 2007 17:00
To: helpwithvb@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [helpwithvb] Vista scares me (was "App
Path")
Me? I am avoiding Vista until AT LEAST Service Pack 1,
Maybe 2.
One article in a computer magazine extorts folks to upgrade
to Vista now,
since they will be doing so eventually, and so get the
benefits of this new
OS earlier.
A recent article in Forbes absolutely took Vista apart
(along with Office
2007, although to a lesser extent). Problems (IIRC):
1) Whole new way of organizing menus, with no
"classic" option, 2) small
number of nontrivial incompatibilities with old files,
libraries, 3) loss of
support for some older, but still in play device drivers, 5)
Others that I
don't recall.
-BDN
--------
And btw, just to rant a bit... while Microsoft promised to
support vb6
applications on Vista they didn't ship all the dll's that
your programs
might need, so it's a big headache. Anyone using Vista yet
or deploying
applications to Vista?
Jamie
.
.
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