Hula Forum open for viewing

Hi,

After some time to get the layout right and some problems
with getting my
registrar to point to the correct name servers the domain is
finally there.

You can see the forum in action at http://www.hulaforum.org

I want to thank Manuel for making a great theme. We still
have some ideas left
for the theme but first you guys and gals should take a
look.

We made (well Manuel mostly) some boards and topics, just as
an example for you
to ponder about. If you need more, or less, let us know.
Both Manuel and I can
change things around.

Like Manuel posted earlier, when we can chage the layout of
the wiki around it
would be great to have the same theme but that is for later.

So take a look and be gentle........ 

Again many thanks go to Manuel and you mailing list people
for being so patience


SeeYa,
Michel
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----- Original Message -----
From: Michel van Horssen <michelxternal.nl>
To: Hula-General <hula-generalforge.novell.com>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:32:15 PM GMT+0100
Europe/Berlin
Subject: [Hula-general] Hula Forum open for viewing

Hi,

After some time to get the layout right and some problems
with getting my
registrar to point to the correct name servers the domain is
finally there.

You can see the forum in action at http://www.hulaforum.org

I want to thank Manuel for making a great theme. We still
have some ideas left
for the theme but first you guys and gals should take a
look.

We made (well Manuel mostly) some boards and topics, just as
an example for you
to ponder about. If you need more, or less, let us know.
Both Manuel and I can
change things around.

Like Manuel posted earlier, when we can chage the layout of
the wiki around it
would be great to have the same theme but that is for later.

So take a look and be gentle........ 

Again many thanks go to Manuel and you mailing list people
for being so patience


SeeYa,
Michel
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Nice job Michel and Manuel.

Even though you said for viewing I posted an item (hope you
don't mind).  One comment I have is that on the Architecture
board, you have "AMD64 & EMT64, PowerPC, Sparc, Mac
OS X" but no 32bit x86.  May I suggest a slight change
to this and replace "AMD64 & EMT64" with
"x86_64" for 64bit and "x86" for 32bit.

Regards,

Andy

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> Nice job Michel and Manuel.

Thanks a lot. 
 
> Even though you said for viewing I posted an item (hope
you don't mind). 
> One comment I have is that on the Architecture board,
you have "AMD64 &
> EMT64, PowerPC, Sparc, Mac OS X" but no 32bit x86.
 May I suggest a slight
> change to this and replace "AMD64 &
EMT64" with "x86_64" for 64bit and
> "x86" for 32bit.

I have modified the name of the board and added an
additional one, as you stated.

Thanks,

Manuel


On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:31:42 +0000 (GMT), Andrew Wafaa
<andrewforcev.net> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michel van Horssen <michelxternal.nl>
> To: Hula-General <hula-generalforge.novell.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:32:15 PM GMT+0100
Europe/Berlin
> Subject: [Hula-general] Hula Forum open for viewing
> 
> Hi,
> 
> After some time to get the layout right and some
problems with getting my
> registrar to point to the correct name servers the
domain is finally
> there.
> 
> You can see the forum in action at http://www.hulaforum.org
> 
> I want to thank Manuel for making a great theme. We
still have some ideas
> left
> for the theme but first you guys and gals should take a
look.
> 
> We made (well Manuel mostly) some boards and topics,
just as an example
> for you
> to ponder about. If you need more, or less, let us
know. Both Manuel and I
> can
> change things around.
> 
> Like Manuel posted earlier, when we can chage the
layout of the wiki
> around it
> would be great to have the same theme but that is for
later.
> 
> So take a look and be gentle........ 
> 
> Again many thanks go to Manuel and you mailing list
people for being so
> patience
> 
> 
> SeeYa,
> Michel
> ---
> Xternal Solutions
> www.xternal.nl
> _______________________________________________
> Hula-general mailing list
> Hula-generalforge.novell.com
> http://forge.novell.com/mailman/listinfo/hula-general
> 
> Nice job Michel and Manuel.
> 
> Even though you said for viewing I posted an item (hope
you don't mind). 
> One comment I have is that on the Architecture board,
you have "AMD64 &
> EMT64, PowerPC, Sparc, Mac OS X" but no 32bit x86.
 May I suggest a slight
> change to this and replace "AMD64 &
EMT64" with "x86_64" for 64bit and
> "x86" for 32bit.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Andy
> 
> --
> Andrew Wafaa
> Tel: +44 (0)7974 074546
> e-Mail: andrewforcev.net
> http://www.forcev.net
> 
> 
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Michel van Horssen wrote:

> We made (well Manuel mostly) some boards and topics,
just as an example for you
> to ponder about. If you need more, or less, let us
know. Both Manuel and I can
> change things around.

Looks great!

I would recommend, however, starting with too few
boards/subforums, rather 
than too many.  Right now, all the traffic on this list
would probably fit 
comfortably into a single boards.  Lots of boards also means
that each 
individual one will seem empty; better to start with a small
room and 
expand as the party gets bigger.  Also, I think it makes for
a cleaner 
boards if you find out what it is people want to talk about
and grow the 
topics once its clear that there is sufficient interest to
create a 
subforum.

Specifically, I think "beginner talk"
"general support", "general 
discussions", and "tips and tricks" are kind
of redundant at this 
point---better to just have a single place where people can
go to see what 
people want to talk about.  It also means that people
interested in 
support are more likely to see the discussions going on and
people 
interested in discussions will see the support
conversations, etc.  News 
and Announcements can just go in sticky threads in a general
topic area as 
well.

I'm not experienced enough to have advice on the non-English
boards but I 
think they could be a good idea _if_ there is sufficient
mass to sustain 
them.  A separate developer board is probably a good idea
too. So, my 
(hastily considered) recommendation would be to just start
with a "General 
Discussion", "Developer Discussion", and
non-English boards as there is 
interest.

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The question with the developer board is a tricky one. In my
opinion a developer board should be only readable by the
developers. But for developer discussions we already have
the dev-mailing-list and the irc channel, so (I think) there
is no need for an additional communication channel. What do
the others think about this?

Well I have a different idea of the forum in mind. You are
absolutely right that an empty board doesn't look exciting
for a user. But it could become exciting when a user can
pre-filter the topics by the type of problem he has. Empty
boards can easily be removed at a later stage when the
acceptance of the forum has become clearer...

But that's just my opinion.

Cheers,
Manuel

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:02:24 -0500 (EST), Nick Matsakis
<nmatsakisnovell.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Michel van Horssen wrote:
> 
>> We made (well Manuel mostly) some boards and
topics, just as an example
> for you
>> to ponder about. If you need more, or less, let us
know. Both Manuel and
> I can
>> change things around.
> 
> Looks great!
> 
> I would recommend, however, starting with too few
boards/subforums, rather
> than too many.  Right now, all the traffic on this list
would probably fit
> comfortably into a single boards.  Lots of boards also
means that each
> individual one will seem empty; better to start with a
small room and
> expand as the party gets bigger.  Also, I think it
makes for a cleaner
> boards if you find out what it is people want to talk
about and grow the
> topics once its clear that there is sufficient interest
to create a
> subforum.
> 
> Specifically, I think "beginner talk"
"general support", "general
> discussions", and "tips and tricks" are
kind of redundant at this
> point---better to just have a single place where people
can go to see what
> people want to talk about.  It also means that people
interested in
> support are more likely to see the discussions going on
and people
> interested in discussions will see the support
conversations, etc.  News
> and Announcements can just go in sticky threads in a
general topic area as
> well.
> 
> I'm not experienced enough to have advice on the
non-English boards but I
> think they could be a good idea _if_ there is
sufficient mass to sustain
> them.  A separate developer board is probably a good
idea too. So, my
> (hastily considered) recommendation would be to just
start with a "General
> Discussion", "Developer Discussion", and
non-English boards as there is
> interest.
> 
> Nick Matsakis
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:27:32 +0100, you wrote:

Hi,

>The question with the developer board is a tricky one.
In my opinion a developer board should be only readable by
the developers. 
> But for developer discussions we already have the
dev-mailing-list and the irc channel, so (I think) there is
no need for an additional communication channel.
> What do the others think about this?

I think that's up to the devs at this stage. What do they
want, are theyall
known, is there a list? 

For translation (does that fall under dev or not?) we could
open a board or not?

>Well I have a different idea of the forum in mind. You
are absolutely right that an empty board doesn't look
exciting for a user. 
> But it could become exciting when a user can pre-filter
the topics by the type of problem he has.
> Empty boards can easily be removed at a later stage
when the acceptance of the forum has become clearer...

I have to agree with Manuel on this one.

>But that's just my opinion.

Hmmm, and mine so it seems... 

>Cheers,
>Manuel

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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Manu wrote:

> You are absolutely right that an empty board doesn't
look exciting for a 
> user. But it could become exciting when a user can
pre-filter the topics 
> by the type of problem he has.

I think this is something that a user _thinks_ he wants, but
actually 
harms the usefulness of a board by dividing it up
prematurely and 
preventing users from learning about problems they don't
know they have.

Once there are enough topics and posts that users are
complaining that the 
community is too large and there is too much information,
that's a great 
problem to have!  You can split the board up in a way that
is sensible to 
the community that exists as that time.

As for a "developer's only" board, I don't see the
reason why development 
should happen somehow in secret.  Again, if the forum has so
many users 
that most strict policies need to be put into place, this is
a better 
problem to have than no regular visitors.

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If there was a way to gateway the dev list into the dev
forum it would be useful as then you have a referance 
archive.

On 11 Dec 2006 at 15:27, Manu wrote:

> The question with the developer board is a tricky one.
In my opinion a developer board should be only readable by
the developers. But for developer discussions we already
have the dev-mailing-list and the irc channel, so (I think)
there is no need for an additional communication channel.
What do the others think about this?
> 
> Well I have a different idea of the forum in mind. You
are absolutely right that an empty board doesn't look
exciting for a user. But it could become exciting when a
user can pre-filter the topics by the type of problem he
has. Empty boards can easily be removed at a later stage
when the acceptance of the forum has become clearer...
> 
> But that's just my opinion.
> 
> Cheers,
> Manuel
> 
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:02:24 -0500 (EST), Nick Matsakis
<nmatsakisnovell.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Michel van Horssen wrote:
> > 
> >> We made (well Manuel mostly) some boards and
topics, just as an example
> > for you
> >> to ponder about. If you need more, or less,
let us know. Both Manuel and
> > I can
> >> change things around.
> > 
> > Looks great!
> > 
> > I would recommend, however, starting with too few
boards/subforums, rather
> > than too many.  Right now, all the traffic on this
list would probably fit
> > comfortably into a single boards.  Lots of boards
also means that each
> > individual one will seem empty; better to start
with a small room and
> > expand as the party gets bigger.  Also, I think it
makes for a cleaner
> > boards if you find out what it is people want to
talk about and grow the
> > topics once its clear that there is sufficient
interest to create a
> > subforum.
> > 
> > Specifically, I think "beginner talk"
"general support", "general
> > discussions", and "tips and tricks"
are kind of redundant at this
> > point---better to just have a single place where
people can go to see what
> > people want to talk about.  It also means that
people interested in
> > support are more likely to see the discussions
going on and people
> > interested in discussions will see the support
conversations, etc.  News
> > and Announcements can just go in sticky threads in
a general topic area as
> > well.
> > 
> > I'm not experienced enough to have advice on the
non-English boards but I
> > think they could be a good idea _if_ there is
sufficient mass to sustain
> > them.  A separate developer board is probably a
good idea too. So, my
> > (hastily considered) recommendation would be to
just start with a "General
> > Discussion", "Developer
Discussion", and non-English boards as there is
> > interest.
> > 
> > Nick Matsakis
> > _______________________________________________
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On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 16:08 -0600, Larry Havenstein wrote:
> If there was a way to gateway the dev list into the dev
forum it would
> be useful as then you have a referance archive.

http:
//news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.hula.devel 



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