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| Afilias to increase .info price
effective October 15, 2007 |
 
United States |
2007-04-17 11:58:47 |
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Afilias has notified ICANN of a price increase to $6.15
for new .info registrations and renewals. The price change
will coincide with VeriSign's price increase for .com and
.net effective October 15, 2007. In our opinion, this looks
more like collusion and price fixing, than a competitive free market
environment. We believe it is only a matter of time before similar unjustified
price increases are announced by PIR for .org and NeuLevel for
.biz.
We believe it is outrageous that wholesale domain prices
are rising, when the prices of technology products and
services continue to plummet. This includes, but is not limited
to computing power, memory, data storage and broadband. The
monopolistic registries are making obscene profits at the expense of the
registrant community, while ;ICANN continues to ignore the best
interests of the public that it was entrusted to protect. Former ICANN Board
member Karl Auerbach was recently interviewed for an
article at Jay Westerdal's DomainTools blog titled "ex-ICANN Board member says
.COM costs $0.14".
VeriS ign cited the growing number of daily DNS queries as being one
reason that justified their ;price increases for .com and
.net. They claimed that VeriSign's DNS received 1 billion daily
queries in 2000 and 30 billion daily queries in 2007. http://www.siliconvalley.com/news/ci_5602425 ;
This increase is not only offset by the greater economies of scale from
selling more .com and .net domain registrations, but the increased computing
power of CPUs. Gordon Moore, co-founder of Intel is widely credited for Moore's
Law, which states that "the number of transistors on a chip doubles about every
two years". As stated on Intel's official Moore's Law page, "But Moore's
Law also means decreasing costs. As silicon-based components and platform
ingredients gain in performance, they become exponentially cheaper to produce,
and therefore more plentiful, more powerful, and more seamlessly integrated into
our daily lives." We would like to emphasize the phrase "exponentially
cheaper".
We would also like to remind everyone that ICANN
completely disregarded the near unanimous public opposition to the
proposed .biz/.info/.org registry agreements, by unanimously approving the
highly controversial contracts at the São Paulo, Brazil meeting on
December 8, 2006.
Sincerely,
Ted
Prophet Partners Inc.
CC: John M.R. Kneuer (Assistant Secretary of Commerce for
Communications and Information, U.S. Department of Commerce -
NTIA)
Vint Cerf (Chairman of the Board,
ICANN)
Anick Jesdanun (Associated
Press)
Arik Hesseldahl
(BusinessWeek)
Paul Sloan (Business
2.0)
Scott Ard (c|net)
Rachel
Rosmarin (Forbes)
Adam Gaffin
(NetworkWorld)
Brian Krebs (The Washington
Post)
CNN News Tips
; The N.Y. Times
News Tips |
| Re: Afilias to increase .info price
effective October 15, 2007 |
 
France |
2007-04-17 13:44:10 |
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Afilias has notified ICANN of a
price increase to $6.15 for new .info registrations and renewals. The
price change will coincide with VeriSign's price increase for .com and
.net effective October 15, 2007. In our opinion, this looks more like
collusion and price fixing, than a competitive free market environment.
We believe it is only a matter of time before similar unjustified price
increases are announced by PIR for .org and NeuLevel for .biz.
http://icann.org/correspondence/laplante-to-twomey-13apr07.pdf
etc...
When will people understand that Registrars are monopolies? They own the
name that I must rent from them. Competition would be for the same name
to be sold at lower rates, this is not possible in the NTIA organised
scarcity. Obviously, had we (atlarge) not been divided by ICANN valets,
and disserved by Paul Vixie, we could use user keywords or run our own
Bind on our own Windows machine.
BTW, what does prevent us to do it now?
Also, when will they understand that if ICANN and root servers
disapeared, nothing special would happen except for those who have picked
a poor ISP. (I did not say "root file", that would be the next
step). The whole alt-root issue is just for ICANN to make believe a root
is needed. This is like the rooster making believe it awakes the sun. Or
the map printer who believes he owns the country.
Let be clear, the only interest in the ICANN/RSSAC/Registrars, etc. stuff
is to make sure that my name is unique. If it actually makes sure that
the name I want is under tasting, why would I bother about it?
The only think which really counted until now was the IP address. It
seems that multi-layer addresses could eventually free us from most of
that silly constraint.
jfcm
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| Re: Afilias to increase .info price
effective October 15, 2007 |
United States |
2007-04-18 00:08:37 |
Ted and all,
I agree with your response fully. I am starting to get
some comments
from our members as well, and so far they are three to one
against such
a cost increase and some, about 50% believe a reduction in
price on
all domain name registrations would better fit the
"Real" situation.
I personally am beginning to believe that there is a price
fixing
scheme afoot here which has RICO implications.
Prophet Partners Inc. wrote:
> Afilias has notified ICANN of a price increase to
$6.15 for new
> .info registrations and renewals. The price change will
coincide with
> VeriSign's price increase for .com and .net effective
October 15,
> 2007. In our opinion, this looks more like collusion
and price fixing,
> than a competitive free market environment. We believe
it is only a
> matter of time before similar unjustified price
increases are
> announced by PIR for .org and NeuLevel for .biz.
> http://icann.org/correspondence/laplante-to-twomey
-13apr07.pdf
>
> We believe it is outrageous that wholesale domain
prices are rising,
> when the prices of technology products and services
continue to
> plummet. This includes, but is not limited to computing
power, memory,
> data storage and broadband. The monopolistic registries
are making
> obscene profits at the expense of the registrant
community, while
> ICANN continues to ignore the best interests of the
public that it was
> entrusted to protect. Former ICANN Board member Karl
Auerbach was
> recently interviewed for an article at Jay Westerdal's
DomainTools
> blog titled "ex-ICANN Board member says .COM costs
$0.14".
> http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/04/ex-icann-board-mem
ber-
> ays-com-costs-014/
>
> VeriSign cited the growing number of daily DNS queries
as being one
> reason that justified their price increases for .com
and .net. They
> claimed that VeriSign's DNS received 1 billion daily
queries in 2000
> and 30 billion daily queries in 2007.
> http://w
ww.siliconvalley.com/news/ci_5602425
>
> This increase is not only offset by the greater
economies of scale
> from selling more .com and .net domain registrations,
but the
> increased computing power of CPUs. Gordon Moore,
co-founder of Intel
> is widely credited for Moore's Law, which states that
"the number of
> transistors on a chip doubles about every two
years". As stated on
> Intel's official Moore's Law page, "But Moore's
Law also means
> decreasing costs. As silicon-based components and
platform ingredients
> gain in performance, they become exponentially cheaper
to produce, and
> therefore more plentiful, more powerful, and more
seamlessly
> integrated into our daily lives." We would like to
emphasize the
> phrase "exponentially cheaper".
> http://www
.intel.com/technology/mooreslaw/
>
> We would also like to remind everyone that ICANN
completely
> disregarded the near unanimous public opposition to the
proposed
> .biz/.info/.org registry agreements, by unanimously
approving the
> highly controversial contracts at the São Paulo, Brazil
meeting on
> December 8, 2006.
> http:/
/forum.icann.org/lists/biz-tld-agreement
> http:
//forum.icann.org/lists/info-tld-agreement
> http:/
/forum.icann.org/lists/org-tld-agreement
> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga/msg
05299.html
>
> Sincerely,
> Ted
> Prophet Partners Inc.
> http://www.ProphetPart
ners.com
> http://www.Premiu
m-Domain-Names.com
>
> CC: John M.R. Kneuer (Assistant Secretary of Commerce
for
> Communications and Information, U.S. Department of
Commerce - NTIA)
> Vint Cerf (Chairman of the Board, ICANN)
> Anick Jesdanun (Associated Press)
> Arik Hesseldahl (BusinessWeek)
> Paul Sloan (Business 2.0)
> Scott Ard (c|net)
> Rachel Rosmarin (Forbes)
> Adam Gaffin (NetworkWorld)
> Brian Krebs (The Washington Post)
> CNN News Tips
> The N.Y. Times News Tips
>
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k
members/stakeholders strong!)
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Abraham Lincoln
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burden, B;
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by
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| Re: Afilias to increase .info price
effective October 15, 2007 |
United States |
2007-04-18 14:38:38 |
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Folks,
Let's try to avoid replying to all recipients with "spam"
in the subject line. It sort of defeats the purpose of contacting those who are
in a position to help us.
Registrars are not monopolies, however registries are
monopolies for the respective TLD during the term of their contracts.
Significantly lower registration / renewal prices are possible, as
evidenced by the competitive rebidding of the .net contract a couple of
years ago.
Sincerely,
Ted
Prophet Partners Inc.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:44
PM
Subject: Re: [SPAM] [ga] Afilias to
increase .info price effective October 15, 2007
At 18:58 17/04/2007, Prophet Partners Inc. wrote:
Afilias has notified ICANN of a
price increase to $6.15 for new .info registrations and renewals. The price
change will coincide with VeriSign's price increase for .com and .net
effective October 15, 2007. In our opinion, this looks more like collusion
and price fixing, than a competitive free market environment. We believe it
is only a matter of time before similar unjustified price increases are
announced by PIR for .org and NeuLevel for .biz.
http://icann.org/correspondence/laplante-to-twomey-13apr07.pdf
etc...
When will people understand that Registrars are
monopolies? They own the name that I must rent from them. Competition would be
for the same name to be sold at lower rates, this is not possible in the NTIA
organised scarcity. Obviously, had we (atlarge) not been divided by ICANN
valets, and disserved by Paul Vixie, we could use user keywords or run our own
Bind on our own Windows machine.
BTW, what does prevent us to do it
now?
Also, when will they understand that if ICANN and root servers
disapeared, nothing special would happen except for those who have picked a
poor ISP. (I did not say "root file", that would be the next step). The whole
alt-root issue is just for ICANN to make believe a root is needed. This is
like the rooster making believe it awakes the sun. Or the map printer who
believes he owns the country.
Let be clear, the only interest in the
ICANN/RSSAC/Registrars, etc. stuff is to make sure that my name is unique. If
it actually makes sure that the name I want is under tasting, why would I
bother about it?
The only think which really counted until now was the
IP address. It seems that multi-layer addresses could eventually free us from
most of that silly constraint.
jfcm
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| Afilias to increase .info price
effective October 15, 2007 |
France |
2007-04-18 18:01:12 |
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Folks,
Let's try to avoid replying to all recipients with "spam" in
the subject line. It sort of defeats the purpose of contacting those who
are in a position to help us.
Sorry, but my anti-spam use to take the GA as spam, no idea why
Registrars are not monopolies,
however registries are monopolies for the respective TLD during the term
of their contracts. Significantly lower registration / renewal prices are
possible, as evidenced by the competitive rebidding of the .net contract
a couple of years ago.
I am afraid, Ted, you missed the point and follow the ICANN community
correct thinking. Registries are the trustees of their communities,
except gTLDs which are only money making machine with no added value for
the global community unless they are really easier and cheaper than
ccTLDs.
So, my registry is someone I can build relations of trust with (or
legally binding for ccTLDs). A Registrar is a service which takes a
defacto control (monopoloy) on the name I own and I invest on. Registrars
are an invention of ICANN with NO network added value, except to permit
ICANN to survive in being an artificial protection of ICANN against
Registries "nuclear arsenal". Without Registrars there would be
no ICANN for a long. All this is a very well construed complexity (a
fense in our current world). When ICANN was started it was started by old
world people who developed a legal complexity. It was boring to manage
and gave the power to Touton and Sim. Twomey is far better: he has built
an incredible relational complexity, making the ICANN community a
stronghold of the virtual world, giving alibi for meetings, travelings,
personal networking, etc.
Now what is the resulting added value that ICANN brings to the global
internet community that is worth 1% of their budget and of their staff? I
frankly have no idea. This might be time to seriously consider changing
this.
jfc
Sincerely,
Ted
Prophet Partners Inc.
http://www.ProphetPartners.com
http://www.Premium-Domain-Names.com
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- From: jefseyclub-internet.fr">JFC Morfin
- To: DomainsProphetPartners.com">Prophet Partners
Inc. ; gagnso.icann.org">gagnso.icann.org
- Cc: jkneuerntia.doc.gov">John M.R. Kneuer (U.S.
Department of Commerce) ; vintgoogle.com">Vint
Cerf ; netwriterap.org">Anick Jesdanun (Associated
Press) ; Arik_Hesseldahlbusinessweek.com">Arik
Hesseldahl (BusinessWeek) ;
psloanbusiness2.com">Paul Sloan (Business2.com) ;
sardcnet.com">Scott Ard (c|net) ;
rrosmarinforbes.net">Rachel Rosmarin (Forbes) ;
agaffinnww.com">Adam Gaffin (NetworkWorld) ;
brian.krebswashingtonpost.com">Brian Krebs (Washington
Post) ; ireportcnn.com">CNN News Tips ;
news-tipsnytimes.com">NY Times News Tips
- Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:44 PM
- Subject: Re: [SPAM] [ga] Afilias to increase .info price
effective October 15, 2007
- At 18:58 17/04/2007, Prophet Partners Inc. wrote:
- Afilias has notified ICANN of a price increase to $6.15 for new .info
registrations and renewals. The price change will coincide with
VeriSign's price increase for .com and .net effective October 15, 2007.
In our opinion, this looks more like collusion and price fixing, than a
competitive free market environment. We believe it is only a matter of
time before similar unjustified price increases are announced by PIR for
.org and NeuLevel for .biz.
-
http://icann.org/correspondence/laplante-to-twomey-13apr07.pdf
- etc...
- When will people understand that Registrars are monopolies? They own
the name that I must rent from them. Competition would be for the same
name to be sold at lower rates, this is not possible in the NTIA
organised scarcity. Obviously, had we (atlarge) not been divided by ICANN
valets, and disserved by Paul Vixie, we could use user keywords or run
our own Bind on our own Windows machine.
- BTW, what does prevent us to do it now?
- Also, when will they understand that if ICANN and root servers
disapeared, nothing special would happen except for those who have picked
a poor ISP. (I did not say "root file", that would be the next
step). The whole alt-root issue is just for ICANN to make believe a root
is needed. This is like the rooster making believe it awakes the sun. Or
the map printer who believes he owns the country.
- Let be clear, the only interest in the ICANN/RSSAC/Registrars, etc.
stuff is to make sure that my name is unique. If it actually makes sure
that the name I want is under tasting, why would I bother about it?
- The only think which really counted until now was the IP address. It
seems that multi-layer addresses could eventually free us from most of
that silly constraint.
- jfcm
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