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Probe failure for IE-HTML
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2006-03-09 14:07:43
Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:07:43

LISTSERVLISTSERV.MSN.COM has  just received the enclosed 
delivery error
as  a result  of a  probe  sent to  your bondyahoo.com
 account for  the
IE-HTML list.  If you are reading  this message, it means 
that your mail
system is successfully delivering mail to your mailbox,
while at the same
time reporting that  an error has occurred (or, 
alternatively, the error
could be due to a system problem which has since then been
fixed). At any
rate, LISTSERV  has no way  to know that  you have actually 
received the
present  message, and  is operating  on the  assumption that
 your e-mail
address is no longer valid. Typically, LISTSERV will send
you one or more
additional probe  messages, on  a daily basis,  to determine
 whether the
failure persists, and if so you will be removed from the
list eventually.
Some lists are configured to remove users on the first
failure.

Assuming you have not  been removed from the list yet,  you
can stop this
process by sending the  following command to LISTSERVLISTSERV.MSN.COM as
soon as possible:

                             CONFIRM IE-HTML

This will tell LISTSERV that your account actually does work
and that you
still want to receive mail from the IE-HTML list.

While the CONFIRM command will solve your immediate problem,
it is only a
matter  of time  until you  find yourself  in the  same
situation  again.
Please take  a look  at the  enclosed error report  and try 
to determine
whether it is a genuine error,  or just an informational
message. Bear in
mind that this error report was  processed by a computer
that cannot tell
"User JAIME24  does not exist" from 
"Please note that the  Department of
Microbiology will be  closed from December 19 to January 
2" or "Attempts
to deliver your message have been unsuccessful for 300
seconds; will keep
trying for  another 431700 seconds". These 
informational messages, while
possibly useful  to a  human reader, should  not be sent  in
answer  to a
message coming from a mailing list (it  is very easy for the
mail program
to determine  whether a message is  coming from a mailing 
list). Genuine
errors should be reported to  your computer/network support
staff as soon
as possible so that they can be corrected.

------------------------- Delivery error report
-------------------------
Return-Path: <>
Received: from 209.119.0.3 by ALMOND.EASE.LSOFT.COM (SMTPL
release 1.0m) with TCP; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:07:43 -0500
Date:       Thu, 9 Mar 2006 9:06:25 -0500
Reply-to:   postmasterLIME.ease.lsoft.com
From:       "LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b"
<postmasterLIME.ease.lsoft.com>
Subject:    Undelivered mail
To:         owner-IE-HTML*bond**MCSE*-MSLISTSERV.MSN.COM
X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error
description:"

An error was detected while processing the enclosed message.
 A list of
the affected recipient follows.   This list is in a special
format that
allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action
on incorrect
addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes.

--> Error description:
Error-for:  bondyahoo.com
Error-Code: 0
Error-Text: Mailer mail.yahoo.com said:
            "554 <bondyahoo.com>: Relay access
denied"

Error-End:  One error reported.

------------------------------ Original message
------------------------------
Received: from almond (209.119.0.160) by LIME.ease.lsoft.com
(LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id
<10.000988F9LIME.ease.lsoft.com>; Thu, 9 Mar 2006
5:58:47 -0500
Date:         Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:00:02 -0500
From:         "Microsoft LISTSERV Server (14.4)"
<LISTSERVLISTSERV.MSN.COM>
Subject: Subscription probe for IE-HTML - please ignore
To:           David bond <bondyahoo.com>
Message-ID:   <LISTSERV%200603090600021190.FDA8LISTSERV.MSN.COM>
X-LSV-ListID: IE-HTML
List-Help:    <http://microsoft.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-ms
n.exe?LIST=IE-HTML>,
              <mailto:LISTSERVLISTSERV.MSN.COM?body=INFO+IE-HTML>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:IE-HTML-unsubscribe-requestLISTSERV.MSN.COM>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:IE-HTML-subscribe-requestLISTSERV.MSN.COM>
List-Owner:   <mailto:IE-HTML-requestLISTSERV.MSN.COM>
List-Archive: <http://microsoft.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-ms
n.exe?LIST=IE-HTML>

Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:00:02

This message is a "probe" for  your subscription
to the IE-HTML list. You
do not need to  take any action to remain subscribed to  the
list, and in
particular you should  not reply to this message. Simply 
discard it now,
or  read on  if  you would  like  to  know more  about  how
this  probing
mechanism works.

A  "probe"  is a  message  like  the one  you 
are  reading, sent  to  an
individual subscriber  and tagged  with a  special signature
 to uniquely
identify  this  particular  subscriber  (you can  probably 
not  see  the
signature because it is in the  mail headers). If the
subscriber's e-mail
address is no longer valid, the  message will be returned to
LISTSERV and
the faulty  address will be  removed from  the list. If  the
subscriber's
address is still valid, the message will not bounce and the
user will not
be deleted.

The main advantage  of this technique is that it  can be
fully automated;
the list owner does not need to read a single delivery
error. For a large
or active  list, the manpower  savings can  be tremendous.
In  fact, some
lists are  so large that it  is virtually impossible to 
process delivery
errors manually. Another advantage is that the special,
unique signatures
make it possible to accurately process delivery errors that
are otherwise
unintelligible, even to an experienced technical person.

The  drawback,  however,  is  that  this  method  lacks 
flexibility  and
forgiveness. Since the Internet does not provide a reliable
mechanism for
probing an  e-mail address without  actually delivering a
message  to the
human  recipient, the  subscribers  need to  be 
inconvenienced with  yet
another "junk message". And, unlike  a human
list owner, LISTSERV follows
a number of  simple rules in determining when and  whether
to terminate a
subscription; it doesn't  remember that you wrote last week
 to warn that
there might be problems with your  ISP over the weekend. In
particular, a
common  problem with  automatic probes  is  mail gateways 
that return  a
delivery error, but do deliver the message anyway. LISTSERV
has no way to
know  that the  message was  in  fact delivered,  and in 
most cases  the
subscriber is not aware of the  existence of these
"false" error reports.
If this  happens to you,  LISTSERV will send  you another
message  with a
copy of the delivery error returned by  your mail system, so
that you can
show it to your technical people.
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