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Indeed, Hail the Mighty Metadata.....
But we rarely work with collections that are identical in size or that end up perfectly aligned as you turn pages of a sketchbook, journal, album etc. We also use different digitisation devices and use them with quite different set ups and lighting/polarising conditions. This would generate quite a number of calibration/cropping reference images over time.
We have also pondered whether to shoot the targets at the beginning of a session/collection only, rather than include them in each image but we feel it much better to keep them inside the individual image. There has been some good discussion regarding internal vs external (device level) calibration targets already.
Linking to a single calibration shot could work for all in house use (e.g. our own web and print designers) but we distribute many images to external users (media, publishers/researchers TV/documentary etc) and maintaining a metadata link would be very difficult.
Thanks
Scott
Scott Wajon Coordinator Imaging Services State Library of New South Wales
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>>> tblake BPL.ORG 12/03/2007 12:36:16 pm >>>
Another approach that could save even more file real = estate might be to use administrative metadata to link to a single shot = of your targets to batches of production shots. If your set up is = consistent, the targets could be applied to every image captured during = any relevant session.
Metadata wins again.
-Tom Blake
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Hi,
It seems a common digital archiving practice to keep the = uncropped, uncompressed Archival Master file as well as a cropped (colour bars, tags out etc) CoMaster or Publication File. Generally speaking the Co Master would be about 80% of the file size (after cropping out unwanted bits) and therefore represents a very significant storage issue if you are saving both files ( as well as = derivatives).
Here is another approach, one that has been suggested by our = IT people......
What about keeping information about the crop as part of the = metadata for each file - i.e. recording and storing the coordinates of each = corner of the required crop and then using this information to automate the production of a cropped rendition ( could be a derivative at any pixel dimensions) = on the fly, as requested.
Photoshop can show in the Info Palette, the top left hand = coordinate of the crop marquee and the x an y pixel length of the sides of the crop marquee. This gives enough information to reproduce the crop each time and requires no real storage space
You could record this manually (perhaps into a spreadsheet initially then into another program/plugin that works with your Digital Asset Management System, e.g. Imagemagic) . Crop info could be recorded = at time of QC, just before ingestion into the DAM, by doing a "practice = crop" but then not applying it to the Master.
I know you can save and load crops as selections or layers or alpha channels in Photoshop but this brings a whole new set of issues about = archiving layered and proprietary files, as opposed to plain old Tiffs = and utilising metadata, so we are not interested in going down this road.
Look forward to comments on the approach, even if you don't = have practical experience in this technique
Scott Wajon
Scott Wajon Coordinator Imaging Services State Library of New South Wales
swajon sl.nsw.gov.au
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