True the oceans take up a lot of carbon but according to the
latest research it is turning them more acidic. There are
already areas of ocean that are deviod of life because of
this.
Regards,
Con
Lee Ogden <Count_Finddivine hotmail.com> wrote:
The carbon sink and global warming
February 16, 2007
James Lewis
According to this week's Science magazine, the ocean's
ability to absorb
carbon may be far greater than previously estimated. That
means that
atmospheric CO2 gets eliminated perhaps twice as much as
global warming
alarmists thought, before this news came out.
Why? Well, it turns out that there is a whole variety of
tiny phytoplanktons
--- single-celled plants --- that are called picoplanktons
because they are
so small. They were just shown to absorb and
"sequester" huge amounts of
carbon. Picoplanktons then sink to deep levels of the ocean,
resulting in a
"carbon sink." They take carbon out of the air, in
their trillions.
That's a crucial component of any model of carbon flow on
earth.
To understand greenhouse gases you need to know the amount
of input, and the
amount of output. But now the output is a lot bigger than
current models
estimated! So the atmosphere can absorb a lot more CO2 than
previously
thought and the oceans will remove it from the carbon
cycle.
So you thought global warming was settled science?
"Just basic physics," as
a NASA True Believer recently said. Well, Mother Nature just
drilled a hole
in your "basic physics" test tube, and it's
leaking carbon.
An old rule in science: Never, never make up your mind
before the data are
in.
Sources
RT Barber, "Picoplankton do some heavy lifting."
Science, Vol. 315, Feb 9,
2007, pp. 777-778.
T.I. Richardson & G.A. Jackson, "Small
phytoplankton and carbon export from
the surface ocean."
>From: wwenger101aol.com
>Reply-To: imagestream@yahoogroups.com
>To: imagestream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [imagestream] Re: A way or so to sequester
CO2 ?
>Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:36:22 EST
>
>Thank you Con. A good response, and it might turn out to
be a good idea.
>There are vast areas of the countryside, especially
downwind of the
>acid-rain-producing regions of industry, for whom your
idea might be of
>very great
>benefit.
>
>Yours is an example of what we should be looking for -
remedies that would
>be
>a good thing to undertake anyway for other reasons than
just that of CO2
>sequestration, so long as there is any reasonable doubt
that CO2 peaks are
>contributing to damaging extremes of climate change.
>
>I hope you win. I might run two ideas in on the same
contest - you saw my
>notion on using breakthroughs in water de-saling
technology to irrigate the
>Sahara and/or other deserts, compost cover crops there
and build up carbon
>in the
>soils there. That's one idea from here, which also meets
my suggested
>criterion of being worth undertaking for its own sake
for other reasons.
>(Count in
>the saving of the Amazon, preventing THAT region from
flipping over into
>desert, as part of the same idea.)
>
>The second idea - are there biologists, chemists,
biochemists or
>biochemical
>engineers here on this list? There is only so much algae
we can raise for
>nutritional purposes and perhaps only so much we can
raise to fertilize
>soils
>(including carbon-less desert soils, another source of
composting to
>sequester
>carbon), what we need is useful bulk products made from
algae. Algae grows
>so
>readily, one can think of dozens of ways to have
extremely productive algae
>farms and much of that would indeed sequester carbon,
but what positive
>products
>can we grow algae FOR?
>
>Sub-question, directed to the same experts: algae grows
so quickly and
>readily, over so wide a range of conditions, why aren't
we growing THAT for
>ethanol
>instead of corn? What are the comparative dollar costs,
and what is the
>energy budget for producing ethanol either way?
>
>More generally: what are all the different ways to ease
or head off the
>effects of a catastrophically changing world climate
which woud be good to
>undertake for their own sake, for positive reasons and
profit, even while
>there may be
>any doubt about the climate catastrophe itself? What are
all the things
>you
>can think of that might meet this criterion, whose
effect could also soften
>or
>turn the blow of radical climate change should that
indeed be pending?
>
>Con, thank you for a very helpful and constructive
response. ....win
>
>In a message dated 2/17/2007 7:44:45 AM Eastern Standard
Time,
>ccominosyahoo.com writes:
>
> > I have had an idea and have sent an email to Dr
Klaus Lackner about
> > my idea but have had no reply yet. Dr Klaus
Lackner is a Columbia
> > University physicist who has developed what he
calls a synthetic
> > tree using a solution running over slats to soak
up the carbon
> > dioxide. I don't have the knowledge that Dr.
Lackner has but it
> > appears we are on the same wavelength and that is
why I contacted
> > him.
> >
> > I remembered from my high school days that
bubbling carbon dioxide
> > through lime water would cause a reaction and
limestone would
> > precipitate out of the water. So my idea woud be
to have aircraft
> > flying as high as possible and releasing lime
water as a very fine
> > spray. If all goes well the resulting reactants
would slowly fall
> > back to earth and be incorporated into the natural
cycle. Of course
> > the particles could clump together and fall like
huge hailstones but
> > careful observation should help work out what
would stop that
> > happening. As the race for the prize has started,
I decided today to
> > submit my idea to the panel. While it might not be
the grandest of
> > ideas it may at least be something that could be
put to work almost
> > immediately until a better solution is found.
> >
> > Any comments on my idea would be appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Con
> >
>
>
>
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