Re: Re: Speaking of Visualization -- Daredevil

> > Hello,
> > I ain't much of a television viewer either. here in Spain, normal
> > t.v. isn't exactly the best.
> > My son loves the marvel comics and so he got this film recently on
> > DVD called Daredevil- a blind superhero who uses echolocation to form
>; > a visual on his surroundings pretty much as bats do and thus "combat"
> > his nemesis.
> > Well, I just thought it coincided with me walking around the house
> > with a blindfold on and finding it easier and easier to picture my
> > surroundings.
> > Daredevil sleeps in an apartment with no light fittings(must be
> > tricky when he has guests) and sleeps in a sound proof chamber
> > partially submerged underwater.(sounds pretty bizarre huh?)

That particular piece of equipment is a sensory deprivation chamber,
that Daredevil uses (in the movie) to get some rest from the
continuous informationflow of his superacute senses. Good idea from
the filmmakes. I liked the idea, that Daredevil was in the movie a
normal person with supernormal senses, he gets hurt when he fights, he
has to rest between fights and uses a lot of drugs to counteract the
damage he takes as a vigilante.

Google "sensory deprivation chamber" to find out more information.
Here's two links I found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_deprivation

http://www.pathfindertanks.com/path_sys_index.htm

It is also a interesting fact that sensory deprivation chambers (or
floatation tanks as they are marketed to the masses of consumers) are
actually a used to increase intelligence. When the brain lack the
stimuli from environment, it starts to create vivid hallucinations to
compensate for the loss. It is theorised that using sensory
deprivation chambers you can acces some parts of the brain that
usually are busy processing information from the surrounding
environment.

> > Anyway, his other senses seem to be on steriods trying to compensate
> > for his lost sight but not only the senses- his internal visual
> > capacity seems to be on steroids too.
>; > Wonder if image streaming will make superheroes out of us all?
>; > Best regards,
> > Dean

I actually stumbled upon an article of a man who has that kind of
overdeveloped skill of visualization. Zoltan Torey, a blind
psychologist.
http://www.wie.org/j35/zoltan.asp?page=1

> I did see on the TV news 6-8 weeks ago about a teen-aged blind kid that does,
> in fact, make his way around with echo-location, even on skateboard, clicking
> as he goes. Such an ability is probably within the range of most of us,
> along with a bunch of others not yet seen amongst us. That - not the DVD but the
> reality - is a good reminder of how little we actually know about human
> capacity and how to activate it and also a reminder that - like spontaneous
> remissions in cancer and other diseases, we ought to be about the business of finding
> out how these happen instead of pretending that they don't. ...win

Some martial artist train to fight blindfolded using their ears to
locate their targets. Ears are located so that you can easily learn
how to locate se source of a sound with pretty good accuracy. I
believe it has something to do with our evolution, in some point of it
our sight must have been a lot less important to surviving. I believe
that anyone can start to "see" with their ears, the trick is to start
paying attention to sounds around us and not just rely on our sight
alone.

Human body and mind is a lot more competent then most of people
understand. There is no limit to the degree of control you can gain
over your body and mind, there is only a limit how long you can
practice and learn.

Tapani

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Hello,
I was just thinking about the information I read up on the sensory
deprivation chamber and recalled this morning by means of a eureka-
that lying down in a sensory depri chamber must be like a blissful
return to the womb even for just a little while.

Speaking about the womb(not a topic you address everyday) I have read
that we may recall in some sensorial way hidden in our brains-
memories about our entrance into this world especially if it weren't
nothing too pleasant. My mother apparently could not give birth the
normal way and going back to 1970 the medical professoin wasn't too
fast on the draw- I have intuitively feelings that I was left in the
womb way too long- trapped in a state of distress- now I try the
techniques of held breath under water and feel feelings of panic
joined with imagery connected to drowning-
in everyday life, I feel relatively OK. I have done so much work on
myself to live a positive life and yet I have strong feelings of fear
of people for which I find no logical reason-. I find that image
streaming has helped loads and will use
it to tackle this fear- would the "over the wall" technique be useful
here? Is there any info that image streaming is useful to deal with
fear?
P.S. Sorry for going off the subject.
Best regards,
Dean

--- In imagestream%40yahoogroups.com">imagestreamyahoogroups.com, "Tapani Kudjoi"
<tapina.apina...> wrote:
&gt;
> > > Hello,
&gt; > > I ain't much of a television viewer either. here in Spain,
normal
> > > t.v. isn't exactly the best.
&gt; > > My son loves the marvel comics and so he got this film
recently on
> > > DVD called Daredevil- a blind superhero who uses echolocation
to form
>; > > a visual on his surroundings pretty much as bats do and
thus "combat"
> > > his nemesis.
> > > Well, I just thought it coincided with me walking around the
house
> > > with a blindfold on and finding it easier and easier to
picture my
> > > surroundings.
> > > Daredevil sleeps in an apartment with no light fittings(must be
> > > tricky when he has guests) and sleeps in a sound proof chamber
> > > partially submerged underwater.(sounds pretty bizarre huh?)
&gt;
> That particular piece of equipment is a sensory deprivation chamber,
> that Daredevil uses (in the movie) to get some rest from the
> continuous informationflow of his superacute senses. Good idea from
>; the filmmakes. I liked the idea, that Daredevil was in the movie a
> normal person with supernormal senses, he gets hurt when he fights,
he
&gt; has to rest between fights and uses a lot of drugs to counteract the
> damage he takes as a vigilante.
>
> Google "sensory deprivation chamber&quot; to find out more information.
> Here's two links I found:
&gt;
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_deprivation
>
> http://www.pathfindertanks.com/path_sys_index.htm
>
> It is also a interesting fact that sensory deprivation chambers (or
> floatation tanks as they are marketed to the masses of consumers)
are
&gt; actually a used to increase intelligence. When the brain lack the
> stimuli from environment, it starts to create vivid hallucinations
to
&gt; compensate for the loss. It is theorised that using sensory
> deprivation chambers you can acces some parts of the brain that
>; usually are busy processing information from the surrounding
> environment.
>
> > > Anyway, his other senses seem to be on steriods trying to
compensate
> > > for his lost sight but not only the senses- his internal visual
&gt; > > capacity seems to be on steroids too.
>; > > Wonder if image streaming will make superheroes out of us all?
>; > > Best regards,
> > > Dean
>;
> I actually stumbled upon an article of a man who has that kind of
> overdeveloped skill of visualization. Zoltan Torey, a blind
&gt; psychologist.
> http://www.wie.org/j35/zoltan.asp?page=1
>
> > I did see on the TV news 6-8 weeks ago about a teen-aged blind
kid that does,
&gt; > in fact, make his way around with echo-location, even on
skateboard, clicking
> > as he goes. Such an ability is probably within the range of
most of us,
> > along with a bunch of others not yet seen amongst us. That -
not the DVD but the
> > reality - is a good reminder of how little we actually know
about human
&gt; > capacity and how to activate it and also a reminder that - like
spontaneous
> > remissions in cancer and other diseases, we ought to be about
the business of finding
> > out how these happen instead of pretending that they
don't. ...win
&gt;
> Some martial artist train to fight blindfolded using their ears to
> locate their targets. Ears are located so that you can easily learn
&gt; how to locate se source of a sound with pretty good accuracy. I
> believe it has something to do with our evolution, in some point of
it
&gt; our sight must have been a lot less important to surviving. I
believe
> that anyone can start to "see&quot; with their ears, the trick is to
start
> paying attention to sounds around us and not just rely on our sight
&gt; alone.
&gt;
> Human body and mind is a lot more competent then most of people
&gt; understand. There is no limit to the degree of control you can gain
>; over your body and mind, there is only a limit how long you can
> practice and learn.
&gt;
> Tapani
&gt;

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--- In imagestream%40yahoogroups.com">imagestreamyahoogroups.com, "Tapani Kudjoi&quot; <tapina.apina...> wrote:
&gt;
> > > Hello,
&gt; > > I ain't much of a television viewer either. here in Spain, normal
&gt; > > t.v. isn't exactly the best.
&gt; > > My son loves the marvel comics and so he got this film recently on
> > > DVD called Daredevil- a blind superhero who uses echolocation to form
>; > > a visual on his surroundings pretty much as bats do and thus "combat"
> > > his nemesis.
> > > Well, I just thought it coincided with me walking around the house
&gt; > > with a blindfold on and finding it easier and easier to picture my
> > > surroundings.
> > > Daredevil sleeps in an apartment with no light fittings(must be
> > > tricky when he has guests) and sleeps in a sound proof chamber
> > > partially submerged underwater.(sounds pretty bizarre huh?)
&gt;
> That particular piece of equipment is a sensory deprivation chamber,
> that Daredevil uses (in the movie) to get some rest from the
> continuous informationflow of his superacute senses. Good idea from
>; the filmmakes. I liked the idea, that Daredevil was in the movie a
> normal person with supernormal senses, he gets hurt when he fights, he
> has to rest between fights and uses a lot of drugs to counteract the
> damage he takes as a vigilante.
>
> Google "sensory deprivation chamber&quot; to find out more information.
> Here's two links I found:
&gt;
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_deprivation
>
> http://www.pathfindertanks.com/path_sys_index.htm
>
> It is also a interesting fact that sensory deprivation chambers (or
> floatation tanks as they are marketed to the masses of consumers) are
> actually a used to increase intelligence. When the brain lack the
> stimuli from environment, it starts to create vivid hallucinations to
> compensate for the loss. It is theorised that using sensory
> deprivation chambers you can acces some parts of the brain that
>; usually are busy processing information from the surrounding
> environment.
>
> > > Anyway, his other senses seem to be on steriods trying to compensate
> > > for his lost sight but not only the senses- his internal visual
&gt; > > capacity seems to be on steroids too.
>; > > Wonder if image streaming will make superheroes out of us all?
>; > > Best regards,
> > > Dean
>;
> I actually stumbled upon an article of a man who has that kind of
> overdeveloped skill of visualization. Zoltan Torey, a blind
&gt; psychologist.
> http://www.wie.org/j35/zoltan.asp?page=1
>
> > I did see on the TV news 6-8 weeks ago about a teen-aged blind kid that does,
&gt; > in fact, make his way around with echo-location, even on skateboard, clicking
> > as he goes. Such an ability is probably within the range of most of us,
> > along with a bunch of others not yet seen amongst us. That - not the DVD but the
> > reality - is a good reminder of how little we actually know about human
&gt; > capacity and how to activate it and also a reminder that - like spontaneous
> > remissions in cancer and other diseases, we ought to be about the business of
finding
> > out how these happen instead of pretending that they don't. ...win
&gt;
> Some martial artist train to fight blindfolded using their ears to
> locate their targets. Ears are located so that you can easily learn
&gt; how to locate se source of a sound with pretty good accuracy. I
> believe it has something to do with our evolution, in some point of it
> our sight must have been a lot less important to surviving. I believe
> that anyone can start to "see&quot; with their ears, the trick is to start
&gt; paying attention to sounds around us and not just rely on our sight
&gt; alone.
&gt;
> Human body and mind is a lot more competent then most of people
&gt; understand. There is no limit to the degree of control you can gain
>; over your body and mind, there is only a limit how long you can
> practice and learn.
&gt;
> Tapani
&gt;
If anyone wants an example of sensory deprivation and the spirit to overcome adversity
I can think of no better than Helen Keller. Norman Cousins, in his book "Human Options&quot;
recounts his meeting with this most extraordinary woman, who put her hands on his face
at their greeting and he felt as if his soul was being touched. She could hear a piano
playing by draping her arm over the instrument and feeling the vibrations. Kinesthetic
intelligence.

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