THE KEY TO SUCCESS in held-breath underwater swimming?

i began the three week held-breath under water swimming routine a few
days ago and i'm already feeling the power of it.

i have noticed that when i'm gasping for air i experience a strong
'rushing' kind of sensation in my chest, rather like a rush of
adrenaline which i suspect is the diving response; the shunting of
blood into the major organs, particularly the heart. in fact it is so
strong that i can even hear it under water!

as an experiment i tried swimming on the surface on one breath and i
did not experience the same rush that i did when under water, even
when i was panicking for air - corroborating my suspicions that it was
indeed the 'diving response'.

if i may suggest, especially to those of you who have tried the three
week programme without success, that you are probably not pushing
yourself enough and consequently you're not getting your money's worth
so to speak for your time and effort spent under water.

i really feel that this is the point of difference between success and
failure: to push yourself up to and beyond the 'blood rush' on every
dive because THIS is the 'diving response' that is so powerful -
anything less is probably worth little more than ordinary aerobic
exercise.

the real diving response kicks in when you NEED air, not the moment
you stick your head under water.

i think the claims made by win are very reasonable and the explanation
given to support them make a lot of sense to me otherwise i wouldn't
be investing my time and effort into this. i'm sure that i will be one
to fully endorse held-breath under water swimming in three weeks or so
when i've finished the programme considering that i already feel
rewarded after only three days!

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> i think the claims made by win are very reasonable and the explanation
> given to support them make a lot of sense to me otherwise i wouldn't
> be investing my time and effort into this. i'm sure that i will be one
> to fully endorse held-breath under water swimming in three weeks or so
> when i've finished the programme considering that i already feel
>; rewarded after only three days!
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What are you talking about? It makes a lot of sense to you that the
Cartoids are permanently expanded? It makes a lot of sense to you
that the breathing span becomes and remains long whatever level of
physical exercise you have afterwards? You think it is very
reasonable to go from say 120IQ to 130IQ because of the swimming?

You haven't even done the program, but speak from your first
enthusiasm, recommending all over the place. I think you are rather
feeling the placebo effect, than the workings of the 'mammalian diving
response'.

But you know, illogical support is probably more welcome here than
logical critique.

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> try to think how win wenger would have done it. his instructions say
> "explore the pool" or something, so he was probably paying really
&gt; close attention to details down there. that could make a big
> difference. use it or lose it? so the sooner you use it..
and the diving response gets stronger as the water gets colder.

could we just use our bathtubs? my local pools are too warm i think

--- In imagestream%40yahoogroups.com">imagestreamyahoogroups.com, "imagestreamer&quot; <imagestreamer...> wrote:
&gt;
> i began the three week held-breath under water swimming routine a few
> days ago and i'm already feeling the power of it.
>
> i have noticed that when i'm gasping for air i experience a strong
&gt; 'rushing' kind of sensation in my chest, rather like a rush of
> adrenaline which i suspect is the diving response; the shunting of
> blood into the major organs, particularly the heart. in fact it is so
> strong that i can even hear it under water!
&gt;
> as an experiment i tried swimming on the surface on one breath and i
> did not experience the same rush that i did when under water, even
>; when i was panicking for air - corroborating my suspicions that it was
> indeed the 'diving response'.
>
> if i may suggest, especially to those of you who have tried the three
&gt; week programme without success, that you are probably not pushing
> yourself enough and consequently you're not getting your money's worth
&gt; so to speak for your time and effort spent under water.
&gt;
> i really feel that this is the point of difference between success and
> failure: to push yourself up to and beyond the 'blood rush' on every
&gt; dive because THIS is the 'diving response' that is so powerful -
> anything less is probably worth little more than ordinary aerobic
> exercise.
>
> the real diving response kicks in when you NEED air, not the moment
&gt; you stick your head under water.
&gt;
> i think the claims made by win are very reasonable and the explanation
> given to support them make a lot of sense to me otherwise i wouldn't
> be investing my time and effort into this. i'm sure that i will be one
> to fully endorse held-breath under water swimming in three weeks or so
> when i've finished the programme considering that i already feel
>; rewarded after only three days!
&gt;

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