Hard to describe what is indescribable...
the Dali Lama says, 'You know you are enlightened when everyone
you see, you see as enlightened'
Easiest way to see where you stand on this is look around at
your co-workers, or your fellow travelers on your commute...or
take a trip the local mall to see how far you have to go...
---- On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, midwaycobra ( midwaycobra%40yahoo.com">midwaycobra
yahoo.com)
wrote:
> I greet you, human beings!
>
> Read this thread with interest. I think what the buddhist
refer to as
> enlightenment is a metaperspective on existance, a philosophic
and
> emotional high. It is still one of the sidebranch activities
of
>; humans, such as sport, music, art, fashion, fiction
literature, some
>; sciences, and the writing and reading of this message.
Sidebranch
> activities may support Evolution, but it is the direct
development of
> science & technology leading to higher human/artificial
intelligence
> that is of importance to the survival and prosperity of life.
>
> If you close your eyes and try to think of a colour from all
the
> colours you know, you will find yourself choosing a colour,
but not
> being aware of why you choose that particular colour. You may
think
> "Oh, I choose red because my car is red!" but that is not free
will -
> you were not aware of bringing forth that reasoning to your
awareness.
> From this simple experiment that only a few people will
happen to
> grasp, it can be concluded that there is no such thing as free
will
> what our awareness of this process of reality is concerned.
>
> Because your perceptions feels so "alive", the brain or
whatever does
>; not readily come to this final, highest conclusion of
existance. I
> happen to predict that everyone reading this will either not
> understand it, or very soon forget the little insight they
were able
>; to get from this message with their very limited minds. That
is okay
>; - it just means that I happen to have the best mind of us all,
able to
> reflect on this ultimate realization!
>
> (-_-)
>
> By being annoyingly condescending, am I provoking the response
in you
> of rejecting the ideas put forth and disliking "me", thus
controlling
> your "free will"?
>
> Okay, so there's a controversial message - now write some
interesting
> responses!
>
> May your day be without suffering!
>
>
> --- In imagestream%40yahoogroups.com">imagestreamyahoogroups.com, "Tapani Kudjoi"
> wrote:
> >
>; > How to get information about enlightment? People who have
experienced
> > it can describe it, but only those who are also enlightened
understand
> > what they are talking about. For example I can try to
describe snow
>; > and temperature of -30 degree (celsius) to my brasilian
friend, who
> > has some knowledge of what I'm trying to tell her, but who
really
> > understands what I'm talking about when she gets here in the
middle of
> > winter and experiences it herself.
> >
> > Words like enlightment are also used in other than spiritual
contexts.
> > It is used to point out that someone has had a profound
moment of
> > realization and has gained information that most people will
never
> > understand. I don't think that enlightment is something you
just pick
>; > up and understand easily, also it is a good question wether
it is even
>; > usefull to pursuit something that might just not be what
most people
> > expect it to be.
> > Most of the enlightment seekers I've met seem to be looking
for
> > another chance in life. Something that would make sense in
the world
> > around them. They seek for answers, they seek for something
better
> > than the life they allready have. I was just thinking one
day, that
>; > some of them might just be wasting away their life seeking
something
> > that isn't there. How can you gain secret knowledge of the
universe it
> > self, if you can't even see the things that are present in
your life
>; > right now?
>; >
> > Tapani
>
>
.
