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Re: Re: What is reality?
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2007-08-31 14:49:18

This far along in my years I may or may not have decided the answer to the
question of free will. However, I've long since decided on some of the choices
I want my me to be identified with.

...And on some of the differences in other people's lives I wish to have my
me identified with, in my own mind and in others', as having been instrumental
in bringing about. ...w

In a message dated 8/30/2007 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
midwaycobra%40yahoo.com">midwaycobrayahoo.com writes:

> Well, it doesn't help spread the non free will meme, if you are overly
> condescending in trying to spread it. I find the Silk understanding
> of no free will to be an incorrect and negative one, and it doesn't
> help that you don't clean up your english, not suggesting I am a
> master of the english language myself.
>
> It doesn't make sense to philosophically operate with a time in the
> past that ones decisions were programmed into you. First, you are not
> the memory of the past. Second, experience is a very, very, very
>; subtle process, and the most subtlest thoughts and sensations can
> evolve into major thought patterns. Ask Win Wenger.
>
> I agree that we cannot understand reality. Things we don't understand
> will happen in the beyond singularity - maybe that intelligence can
> realize why anything exists... :/
>
>
> --- In imagestream%40yahoogroups.com">imagestreamyahoogroups.com, Silk <silkvain...> wrote:
&gt; >
>; >Silk: Jonathan White- wrote: "Free Will is really quite simple to me"
> >
>; >Silk: To most simple people it is however no such animal exists, we,
> humans, have no free will. Yes you do think &can "believe" your
>; decisions are yours but if you leave yourself out of the equation you
> see your favorite color.. did you decide on this.. Of course not.. You
> view the females you are attracted to (or males whatever your
>; persuasion) what? You may say well she is so &so.. I say well why do
> like females that are so &so &not those that are this or that.. You
> do not know.. These choices ( you feel you make) are programmed into you.
>; >
>; >It is this very fear of help&shy;less&;shy;ness which pre-destination [
> the
> total &complete abscence of free will] sug&shy;gests &engenders that is
> responsible for its rejection by humans. You can't change your
> finger&;shy;prints nor even the color of your skin or height. I am of the
> "opinion" that just as surely as these things are fixed at the
> instant of concep&;shy;tion, if not before, so is one's mental make
>; which means you have no say in the matter.
> >
>; >If you believe you have a free will it is only because you were
>; programmed to so believe.
> >Face it you are nothing more than a puppet but your little ego
> doesn't like this concept, it prefers one which suggests you are
> master of your own fate, capitain of your ship.. Yeah sure &every
> little boy can grow up to be president. Dream on... Dream on....
&gt; >Most simple people do.... The positon of most un simple (
> Intelligent) people is I "simply" do not know.
&gt; >
>; >As to reality.... there is no such thing comprehensible by humans...
> Ever hear of "Solipsism"?
>

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