Fun Project - was Re: Imagestreamed articles praised in blog

Fun project for anyone here, and one which
demonstrates a tiny piece of the advanced variations
and applications we have these days on the "Beachhead"
process:

Go into Hinton's world, described here, and discover
how the "focussed light"; phenomena there were
produced. Was it by an extension of our present
technology with photovoltaics? Was it a
fiberoptic-type effect? Or by an entirely different
physical principle altogether? See if you can observe
the phenomena and what produces it in enough detail
that you could re-create the same device back here as
a commerciable invention, or at least a working
invention.

Just for the challenge, and for bragging rights,
though I don't mind a bit if you also win profits.
(Though don't count on the prospective profits until
they are in hand, since the only people who beat a
path to the doorway of inventors of better mousetraps
these days are invention-development firms which make
their profits not from the inventions but from the
services they can sell to inventors.)

So that's the challenge - some sort of "Beahhead"-like
trip (see http://www.winwenger.com/beachhd.htm for one
model) to Hinton's world as described below, getting
enough detail on that "focussed light"; to build the
effect in a working device here on today's Earth.
Plus, you can get some entertainment as a tourist
"there."

If several of you rise to this little challenge, I
will then share with you the significance of what
you've done. ....win

(If yahoo truncates the description, you can find the
original in the archives for Wednesday Feb. 27. Or
you can let your faculties take you to his world
without your seeing his description, just to see what
shows up. Also note, you don't have to believe in his
world or in any of these worlds in order to get useful
information from such experiences. Just have fun, let
fly, and see what you can get.)

--- Stephen Hinton < stephen.hinton%40telia.com">stephen.hintontelia.com> wrote:

> LAL
>
> You old hippy! this is brilliant. many thanks. keep
>; it up.
>
> I was so enthralled with this I published it raw on
> my blog. You'd
> better shout if you want it removed!
>
> Best regards
>
> Steve (another old hippy)
&gt;
> > I made a visit to (Image-streamed) *Steve Hinton's
> Porena* and here
> > are some
>; > of the hilights of what I saw. I was most
>; interested in how industrial
> > products would interface with a community that was
> "post-industrial". The
> > street was unpaved, but not rutted or difficult.
> > First I visited a home. The visible part of the
> home was a low structure,
> > hobbit-like, constructed of field stone, small
&gt; wood and straw-bales
> > covered
> > in clay. This was used as a mud room and tool
>; storage. Even the pitchfork
> > was hand made of wood and cloth binding it
> together. Most of the home was
> > underground. I went down a flight of wood and
> stone stairs. It was lit and
> > heated and the cooking was fueled by "focussed
> light"; Cooking was "triple
> > focussed&quot; light. Light was "lured" into the
> downstairs from outside by
> > shiny pipes, and the effect was bright but softly
&gt; diffused and the sources
> > were hard to spot. Everything in the house was
> homemade or locally
> > made with
>; > available materials. Buckets were wooden with
>; perhaps only a metal handle,
> > but the bands that held the wood straps together
> appeared to be some
> > kind of
> > cloth. Some buckets were waterproof canvas. There
&gt; was very little
> > metal and
> > no plastic. The cooking pot was clay. The water
&gt; supply came into the house
&gt; > through a long chimney that filtered the water
&gt; through stone, gravel and
> > sand and the water descended 25 to 30 ft, becoming
> available downstairs
> > through a spigot in the kitchen. This clean water
&gt; was piped through the
> > house by the pressure from the height and was
> available again in the
> > wash up
> > room through a spigot. The toilet was upstairs,
> outside, and I don't know
>; > what arrangement, but possibly composting toilet
&gt; or some such. I was
> > surprised by the computer in one small room.. it
> was a screen and it was
> > operated by placing the hands into and onto a
> sphere. ..a very Flintstone
> > feel in the room..hi-tech stone age. The rough
&gt; wooden dining table was set
> > with wooden spoons, good knives and chopsticks.
> The plates were wooden or
> > clay, the glasses were silver, old glass or clay,
&gt; The food was home grown
&gt; > and locally grown veggie stew with a small bit of
> meat.
&gt; > The man there was surprising modern looking...
> physically bright, healthy,
> > welcoming, friendly, silent.
> > I understood that the computer was only used to
> calculate ... how much of
> > what was needed where. The population was aware
&gt; that much of our current
> > material concern was metaphoric in nature and they
>; no longer needed a
> > phone
&gt; > to communicate at a distance or internet to
> communicate with a mass of
> > people. Mind to mind and minds to mind etc was all
> automatic function of
> > consciousness. Another feature was that animals
> were not used or
> > enslaved or
> > domesticated in any way and the population was
> horrified by the very
> > thought
> > of such disrespect to Life. Meat was acquired as a
> voluntary transaction
> > between certain types of animals who willingly
> traded their bodies for the
> > care and ease of domesticated life. Some animals
> wandered freely in the
> > town, but they were not "owned".
> > All the artifacts of daily life, especially
> clothing was handmade with
> > great
&gt; > care and enormous variety. Especially children
> were dressed
> > wonderfully with
>; > embroidered vests and little jackets with many
>; colours.. every child
> > wore a
> > different style fanciful little cap. They *all*
&gt; looked like grandmothers
> > favourite child. The adults were also dressed in a
> great variety of softly
&gt; > coloured clothing.. some as simple as a sack with
>; hole for arms and head.
&gt; > There were no harsh aniline colours anywhere. The
> town was full of people
&gt; > leisurely going about their daily activities, a
> great deal of laughter
> > from
>; > the kids who could run and play safely everywhere.
> They could stop and
> > pick
>; > a fruit or veggie to snack on from everywhere.
> > I was left with some questions... how did the
> water get into the
> > purification chimney? How was the light stored so
> you could use at night?
&gt; > This heat source did not combust anything. it was
> focussed and then
>; > refocussed 3 times and this created heat enough to
> cook. I don't
> > understand
> > that.
&gt; > Great town Stephen!! I hope you don't mind having
&gt; it imprinted by this old
> > hippie!
> > love
>; > lal
> >
>; > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Stephen Hinton
> > < stephen.hinton%40telia.com">stephen.hintontelia.com
> <mailto:stephen.hinton%40telia.com>>
> > wrote:
&gt; >
>; > > A couple of my works that came from imagestream
> sessions and turned into
>; > >
>; > > "articles from the future&quot; have been getting
> attention.
> > >
>; > > http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2008/02/23.html
> > <http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2008/02/23.html>
> > >
>; > > (First paragraph)
> > >
>; > > The other complements the article mentioned.
> > >
>; > >
>; > >
> >
>;
http://porena.blogspot.com/2008/02/article-from-future-new-york-uses-gift.html
>
> >
>;
<http://porena.blogspot.com/2008/02/article-from-future-new-york-uses-gift.html&gt;
> > >
>; > > Come on list... you all have much more than my
> small efforts in
> > you......
> > >
>; > > Steve

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This article shares an innovation -- a simple plan by which many
charities could earn tremendous "profits" (to be plowed back into their
humanitarian efforts) while dramatically reducing the impact of global
warming and peak oil, and also easing financing problems faced by many
cities and communities worldwide. This system is one of a series of
inventions I am putting into the public domain for anyone to use freely,
with or without attribution.

The following plan may seem on its surface to be nothing more than
another conventional way to tap the carbon-offset market to put in a few
trees or solar panels somewhere. It is not. Rather, charitable
organizations which employ this strategy will be able to earn a profit
of 60% to 90% (less some minor expenses) on their carbon-offset
investments. Yet this plan is not, for reasons that will become obvious,
nearly as well suited for profit-seeking enterprises.

First, a summary of the issues involved. For those not following current
events very closely, key warning signs (such as the rapid melting of
Arctic summer sea ice, and severe forest fires and droughts linked to
climate change) indicate that climate change (aka global warming) is
emerging ever-more-rapidly as a dire threat. Meanwhile, global oil
production appears to be on the verge of peaking (the highest rate of
production we will ever see) if it has not already and much of the world
is experiencing shortages of either food or water, even in the United
States. Finally, grave issues surrounding the mortgage markets in the
U.S. have damaged the global financial system, creating a level of
uncertainty in which many creditors are unwilling to lend... even to
low-risk customers like cities and towns.

Clearly, most people would like to do something about these issues.

Carbon offsets are one way in which some organizations are trying to
help. A conventional carbon offset amounts to a promise from a company
or charitable trust to remove or reduce carbon emissions by one ton for
so many dollars (prices usually range from $4 to $40 per ton, depending
on the entity). They typically try to fulfill this promise by either
capturing or eliminating carbon emissions at the source (often
installing renewables), by planting trees, or both. Some organizations
even have a "carbon calculator
<http://www.carbonfund.org/site/pages/carbon_calculators>&quot; to help
customers estimate how much carbon their lifestyle has generated, and
hence how much they should feel obligated to pay for. And because most
nations' power grids are interconnected, determining how much carbon is
generated on average by each kilowatt of power consumed from the grid is
actually fairly easy. Calculating the CO2 released by a gallon of
gasoline is even easier (it's a known quantity). Many businesses and
organizations simply use the Greenhouse Gas Protocol
<http://www.ghgprotocol.org/>; to determine what they need to offset.
This carbon-offset market is potentially a vast source of funds. As
noted in The Financial Times
<http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/48e334ce-f355-11db-9845-000b5df10621.html?nclick_check=1>,
"The burgeoning regulated market for carbon credits is expected to more
than double in size to about $68.2bn by 2010, with the unregulated
voluntary sector rising to $4bn in the same period.&quot; Present economic
circumstances may cut into that latter estimate, but even a fraction
represents a huge fundraising opportunity for most foundations, and if
the carbon-credit market begins to inject funds into the following
system, the impact on global climate and energy will be even more profound.

But unfortunately, as The Financial Times has pointed out
<http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/48e334ce-f355-11db-9845-000b5df10621.html?nclick_check=1>,
"some organizations have been selling carbon credits that yield few if
any environmental benefits.&quot; The great irony is that, if done properly,
it should be easy to overperform in terms of carbon captured or
eliminated, while making far more than just a sliver of "profits" from
each contribution -- assuming, in the latter case, that you are a
charity. And here's why...

Assume, for the sake of the argument, that you run a small charity which
has taken in some carbon-offset contributions. Offer a small loan to a
financially stable city in the U.S. with ready access to one or more
strong sources of alternative energy (solar, wind, micro-hydro,
geothermal, tidal, etc). This loan would pay for an upgrade to a key
piece of that city's crisis-management infrastructure -- either a
permanent source of renewable energy or an improvement resulting in
tremendous energy savings. Obviously, this would cut the "carbon
footprint" of that infrastructure, but again, the real benefits are in
the details.

First, contributors would know their money was going to a truly
essential part of the city in question, a hospital, water treatment
plant/pumping station, or a police or fire department. (As opposed to,
say, merely padding the profits of a local strip mall.) And you would
work with cities to choose projects not only ideal for their environment
(solar in sunny climes, micro-hydro beside rivers, and conservation
everywhere), but which will also be extremely productive to undertake,
so that much of the money invested will be repaid in a very short period
of time. (More on such financially hyper-efficient initiatives below.)

Second, the loan would be low-interest, say, 2% if repaid in the first
few years, 0% if repaid in a year to 18 months, and 10% of the loan
would be forgiven if repaid within one year. Given the time horizon on
both peak oil and climate change, it may be necessary to include two
further categories -- the forgiveness of 20% of loans repaid within nine
months and of 30% of loans repaid within six. (You can adjust these time
periods and percentages to whatever the market and circumstances suggest
is ideal.) These incentives would encourage cities to repay you as
quickly as possible, enabling you to get most or all of the money back
in a year (if not less), so you could then recycle the funds in
question. Yes, technically that original pool of dollars from the first
loan would diminish in time, but how many contributions do you normally
get to spend over and over again? And meanwhile, the remaining 70%, 80%
or 90% of that loan, less some small expenses, would amount to pure
profit for your institution.

Third, if the cities you work with apply for relevant homeland-security
or disaster-relief funding as appropriate, you may find loans for major
projects are repaid much faster when governments are only borrowing part
of the money from your foundation, thus enabling you to accomplish many
good deeds quickly, while reclaiming the bulk of your investment each
time for new enterprises. For example, a city could easily make the case
that in the event of a disaster, it would want to have adequate backup
generators at a particular hospital. If a federal grant to this city in,
say, Florida were adequate to pay for half the cost of a full solar
power system (perhaps with panels from Nanosolar), and your
organization's loan covered the other half, then the city would really
only have to pay for half the overall cost (actually only 90%, 80% or
70% of that half (or 45%, 40% or 35% of the full price)).

Fourth, because the city would not be carrying any of the initial cost,
by the time it had to repay a significant part of the loan, it would
already be seeing a net savings due to the reduction in its power bill.
In other words, if you choose a sufficiently cost-effective project,
this is a win-win or win-win-win situation for all parties. The federal
government (if involved) will have taken concrete action to make the
city's key operations safer, the city will have done likewise and also
saved substantial money possibly without having invested a dime to make
it happen. You will literally be carrying most or all of the short-term
costs of making these long-term savings. The money saved on their energy
budget will quickly dwarf the small payments they are making on
90/80/70% of the loan's principal, even if they do not have any state,
federal or other private money supporting a specific project. Freed of
the burden of that particular energy bill, with only minimal upkeep on
the ruggedized equipment required, the city will quickly make a net
profit as a result of cooperating, and have all the more incentive to do
so again. And your foundation will have done a good deed, gotten most of
its seed money back, and only enhanced its credibility in this field and
its experience in managing such partnerships. All of these benefits will
simply encourage cities to present practical, well-designed upgrade
projects a charity would be willing to fund with offsets and to seek
supplementary funding (such as homeland-security support) on their own.

Fifth, traditionally, installing an alternative power source goes
hand-in-hand with looking over your home or institution's energy
requirements and seeing what power demands can be most easily met
through conservation rather than an ever-larger electrical supply. The
functions of looking over buildings for wasteful problems, correcting
those problems, and installing the new systems, are all jobs that can
not be outsourced. As has been pointed out in The New York Times
<http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/opinion/17friedman.html?_r=1&hp&amp;oref=slogin>,
these "green-collar jobs" may well be the wave of the future --
particularly for disadvantaged youths who have few career or educational
opportunities. Not only could an ongoing project of this kind in a
greater metropolitan area serve as a valuable training program, but it
could in fact be a further source of funds, as organizations with an
interest in education, job training, economic development and related
matters might choose to support that aspect of this larger design.
Furthermore, depending on the quality of the energy auditors you have
access to, just paying to have an audit done of major buildings (like
hospitals) or city operations (like water treatment and pumping) might
prove to be one of the "hyper-efficient projects&quot; mentioned above -- the
kind of low-cost, high-yield efforts that would quickly pay for itself.
Perhaps even before the city had to repay its loan.

Sixth, by first approaching solvent, stable local governments of sizable
urban areas in a wealthy nation, you increase the odds of finding
reliable partners. Most Western cities rarely declare bankruptcy unless
faced with major long-term fiscal problems or disasters on the scale of
Katrina. They also tend to have longer-term needs than simply improving
their energy efficiency at one or two or a dozen sites. Imagine the
number of hospitals, transportation hubs, police departments,
water-treatment facilities and so forth that a mayor and city council
might consider critical infrastructure in, say, Los Angeles, Chicago,
Atlanta or even Charlotte.

What you as an organization want to do is home in on the "low-hanging
fruit&quot; -- every simple change that offers near-term savings as great as
the percentage of the loan the city will be repaying... preferably
yielding these savings as quickly as they choose to repay (most of) the
loan. This may sound like a tall order, but remember, as fossil fuel
prices continue to rise, savings of fuel and electricity will become
increasingly valuable. Something that made no sense at $25-a-barrel and
that was barely logical at $60-a-barrel may become absolutely essential
at $150 or $200-a-barrel. We will be discussing, in later columns,
extremely inexpensive public-domain inventions which can easily meet
this standard -- a high level of savings in exchange for a low level of
investment.

Furthermore, as you develop experience in this field and as conventional
energy costs become even more prohibitive, you will be able to expand
your range of operations to include cities and towns with slightly less
access to plentiful renewable power, to businesses and non-profits
engaged in work critical to their communities' survival (such as organic
farms producing affordable food for local consumption) and ultimately to
somewhat less stable cities and towns around the world. You will still
want most of your loans to be as secure as reasonably possible, but once
you are established in this work you will have the flexibility to take a
few risks where success would yield great benefits.

A note on the advantages of being a relief organization in the voluntary
carbon-offset field:

1. A genuine non-profit obviously has no need for profit, only for
sufficient revenues to handle overhead and the talent to make the
best use of available funds. Hence, if a charitable trust that
invests the great majority of its contributions into actual relief
work (as opposed to overhead and fundraising) begins to make
enormous "profits" from their work, there is no backlash against
them. So long as those excess funds are devoted to good works,
whether global-warming/peak-oil related or otherwise, donors will
merely be pleased to see that their funds are being stretched so
far and used so well. In other words, a 60% or 70% profit margin
that gets diverted as far afield as children's vaccinations will
be far more accepted than a corporate profit of 20% that goes to
the CEO's annual bonus and the investors' bottom line.

Giving an "unfair advantage," ironically, to the institutions
traditionally least interested in competing for profitability.

2. Well-known and respected non-profits have greater credibility than
a for-profit enterprise. The simple fact that many established
charities are known for doing good works in sustainability and
disaster relief, have verifiable track records to that effect and
have no ulterior motive in terms of reaping huge profits from an
initiative, both carbon-offset customers, typical contributors and
other organizations are apt to take their pronouncements and
initiatives much more seriously than if they were seen as yet more
"money-grubbing corporations."

3. International charities already have ready access to the relief
infrastructure, contacts and personal experience that other, less
practiced organizations would have to develop on their own. All of
which means that they could step right into carbon-offset
reforestation or emissions reduction without missing a beat,
simply by adding the work to existing efforts.

The above options are just a couple of ways in which purchases of carbon
offsets could provide a dramatic new influx of funds into a charity.
These funds could then be leveraged to raise their profile by performing
far more good works than anyone could normally ever manage.

Now you may ask: "What if some government gets in the act, and takes
over this kind of work, pushing us out of the business?&quot; Simple, you
smile, step back, and appreciate the fact that you've helped stimulate
real progress, but that someone with far greater resources is stepping
in now, thus completing the mission of upgrading critical infrastructure
in the country or region in question. If anything, this is a result you
will want to encourage. Rest assured, there's plenty more to be done.
Until the entire planet has been reached by these kinds of services,
there will not only be more "markets" to open in other places, but there
will be plenty of "low-hanging fruit"; to be exploited, unfortunately,
for some time to come. And once that fruit is gone, higher conventional
energy costs will have brought an even larger harvest into easy reach.

*
/This series will continue tomorrow. I have an ebook full of inventions
and innovations going into the public domain, and I will be posting some
of them to this forum./

You can find my ebook here:
/Renewing the Earth: Public Domain Inventions for a Sustainable Future
<http://www.lulu.com/content/2162881>
http://www.lulu.com/content/2162881
/

I make no claims for any of these concepts, only to tell you they are
here and they can now be used by anyone. Thank you for listening.

Ralph Cerchione

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You might also check out my ebook on renewables, which includes a lot of
solar- and micro-hydro-based, public-domain inventions. Three sample
sections can be found here...

How Charities Can Fight Global Warming/Peak Oil/Credit Crunch & Earn
Billions
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/7/121021/8588/511/471395

Part Two...
Make Billions Fighting Global Warming/Peak Oil/Credit Crunch w/Carbon
Offsets, If You're a Charity
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/8/2400/48977/898/472001

Part Three...
Carbon Offsets -- Trees and Gardens -- The Other Low-Hanging Fruit
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/9/0626/85161/224/472675

...Though these three chapters are really my socio-economic innovations,
as opposed to my mass of simple technological innovations.

I will probably post a number of these articles to the forum, though
without the embedded links available at the URLs above.

You can find my ebook here:
/Renewing the Earth: Public Domain Inventions for a Sustainable Future
<http://www.lulu.com/content/2162881>
http://www.lulu.com/content/2162881
/

I make no claims for any of these concepts, only to tell you they are
here and they can now be used by anyone. Thank you for listening.

Ralph Cerchione

winwenger%40yahoo.com">winwengeryahoo.com wrote:
&gt;
> Fun project for anyone here, and one which
&gt; demonstrates a tiny piece of the advanced variations
> and applications we have these days on the "Beachhead"
> process:
>
>; Go into Hinton's world, described here, and discover
> how the "focussed light"; phenomena there were
>; produced. Was it by an extension of our present
> technology with photovoltaics? Was it a
> fiberoptic-type effect? Or by an entirely different
> physical principle altogether? See if you can observe
> the phenomena and what produces it in enough detail
&gt; that you could re-create the same device back here as
> a commerciable invention, or at least a working
> invention.
>
&gt; Just for the challenge, and for bragging rights,
> though I don't mind a bit if you also win profits.
> (Though don't count on the prospective profits until
&gt; they are in hand, since the only people who beat a
> path to the doorway of inventors of better mousetraps
> these days are invention-development firms which make
>; their profits not from the inventions but from the
> services they can sell to inventors.)
>
> So that's the challenge - some sort of "Beahhead"-like
> trip (see http://www.winwenger.com/beachhd.htm
> <http://www.winwenger.com/beachhd.htm> for one
> model) to Hinton's world as described below, getting
> enough detail on that "focussed light"; to build the
> effect in a working device here on today's Earth.
&gt; Plus, you can get some entertainment as a tourist
> "there."
>
> If several of you rise to this little challenge, I
> will then share with you the significance of what
>; you've done. ....win
>
> (If yahoo truncates the description, you can find the
> original in the archives for Wednesday Feb. 27. Or
> you can let your faculties take you to his world
&gt; without your seeing his description, just to see what
>; shows up. Also note, you don't have to believe in his
> world or in any of these worlds in order to get useful
&gt; information from such experiences. Just have fun, let
> fly, and see what you can get.)
&gt;
> --- Stephen Hinton < stephen.hinton%40telia.com">stephen.hintontelia.com
> <mailto:stephen.hinton%40telia.com>> wrote:
&gt;
> > LAL
> >
>; > You old hippy! this is brilliant. many thanks. keep
>; > it up.
> >
>; > I was so enthralled with this I published it raw on
> > my blog. You'd
&gt; > better shout if you want it removed!
> >
>; > Best regards
> >
>; > Steve (another old hippy)
&gt; >
>; > > I made a visit to (Image-streamed) *Steve Hinton's
> > Porena* and here
>; > > are some
>; > > of the hilights of what I saw. I was most
>; > interested in how industrial
> > > products would interface with a community that was
> > "post-industrial". The
> > > street was unpaved, but not rutted or difficult.
> > > First I visited a home. The visible part of the
> > home was a low structure,
> > > hobbit-like, constructed of field stone, small
&gt; > wood and straw-bales
> > > covered
> > > in clay. This was used as a mud room and tool
>; > storage. Even the pitchfork
> > > was hand made of wood and cloth binding it
> > together. Most of the home was
> > > underground. I went down a flight of wood and
> > stone stairs. It was lit and
> > > heated and the cooking was fueled by "focussed
> > light"; Cooking was "triple
> > > focussed&quot; light. Light was "lured" into the
> > downstairs from outside by
> > > shiny pipes, and the effect was bright but softly
&gt; > diffused and the sources
> > > were hard to spot. Everything in the house was
> > homemade or locally
> > > made with
>; > > available materials. Buckets were wooden with
>; > perhaps only a metal handle,
> > > but the bands that held the wood straps together
> > appeared to be some
>; > > kind of
> > > cloth. Some buckets were waterproof canvas. There
&gt; > was very little
&gt; > > metal and
> > > no plastic. The cooking pot was clay. The water
&gt; > supply came into the house
&gt; > > through a long chimney that filtered the water
&gt; > through stone, gravel and
> > > sand and the water descended 25 to 30 ft, becoming
> > available downstairs
> > > through a spigot in the kitchen. This clean water
&gt; > was piped through the
> > > house by the pressure from the height and was
> > available again in the
> > > wash up
> > > room through a spigot. The toilet was upstairs,
> > outside, and I don't know
>; > > what arrangement, but possibly composting toilet
&gt; > or some such. I was
> > > surprised by the computer in one small room.. it
> > was a screen and it was
> > > operated by placing the hands into and onto a
> > sphere. ..a very Flintstone
> > > feel in the room..hi-tech stone age. The rough
&gt; > wooden dining table was set
> > > with wooden spoons, good knives and chopsticks.
> > The plates were wooden or
> > > clay, the glasses were silver, old glass or clay,
&gt; > The food was home grown
&gt; > > and locally grown veggie stew with a small bit of
> > meat.
&gt; > > The man there was surprising modern looking...
> > physically bright, healthy,
> > > welcoming, friendly, silent.
> > > I understood that the computer was only used to
> > calculate ... how much of
> > > what was needed where. The population was aware
&gt; > that much of our current
> > > material concern was metaphoric in nature and they
>; > no longer needed a
> > > phone
&gt; > > to communicate at a distance or internet to
> > communicate with a mass of
> > > people. Mind to mind and minds to mind etc was all
> > automatic function of
> > > consciousness. Another feature was that animals
> > were not used or
> > > enslaved or
> > > domesticated in any way and the population was
> > horrified by the very
>; > > thought
> > > of such disrespect to Life. Meat was acquired as a
> > voluntary transaction
> > > between certain types of animals who willingly
> > traded their bodies for the
> > > care and ease of domesticated life. Some animals
> > wandered freely in the
> > > town, but they were not "owned".
> > > All the artifacts of daily life, especially
> > clothing was handmade with
>; > > great
&gt; > > care and enormous variety. Especially children
> > were dressed
> > > wonderfully with
>; > > embroidered vests and little jackets with many
>; > colours.. every child
&gt; > > wore a
> > > different style fanciful little cap. They *all*
&gt; > looked like grandmothers
> > > favourite child. The adults were also dressed in a
> > great variety of softly
&gt; > > coloured clothing.. some as simple as a sack with
>; > hole for arms and head.
&gt; > > There were no harsh aniline colours anywhere. The
> > town was full of people
&gt; > > leisurely going about their daily activities, a
> > great deal of laughter
> > > from
>; > > the kids who could run and play safely everywhere.
> > They could stop and
> > > pick
>; > > a fruit or veggie to snack on from everywhere.
> > > I was left with some questions... how did the
> > water get into the
> > > purification chimney? How was the light stored so
> > you could use at night?
&gt; > > This heat source did not combust anything. it was
> > focussed and then
>; > > refocussed 3 times and this created heat enough to
> > cook. I don't
&gt; > > understand
> > > that.
&gt; > > Great town Stephen!! I hope you don't mind having
&gt; > it imprinted by this old
> > > hippie!
> > > love
>; > > lal
> > >
>; > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Stephen Hinton
&gt; > > < stephen.hinton%40telia.com">stephen.hintontelia.com <mailto:stephen.hinton%40telia.com>
> > <mailto:stephen.hinton%40telia.com>>
> > > wrote:
&gt; > >
>; > > > A couple of my works that came from imagestream
> > sessions and turned into
>; > > >
>; > > > "articles from the future&quot; have been getting
> > attention.
> > > >
>; > > > http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2008/02/23.html
> <http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2008/02/23.html>
> > > <http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2008/02/23.html
> <http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2008/02/23.html>>
> > > >
>; > > > (First paragraph)
> > > >
>; > > > The other complements the article mentioned.
> > > >
>; > > >
>; > > >
>; > >
>; >
>; http://porena.blogspot.com/2008/02/article-from-future-new-york-uses-gift.html
> <http://porena.blogspot.com/2008/02/article-from-future-new-york-uses-gift.html&gt;
> >
>; > >
>; >
>; <http://porena.blogspot.com/2008/02/article-from-future-new-york-uses-gift.html
> <http://porena.blogspot.com/2008/02/article-from-future-new-york-uses-gift.html&gt;>
&gt; > > >
>; > > > Come on list... you all have much more than my
> > small efforts in
> > > you......
> > > >
>; > > > Steve
&gt;
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