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Re: German psychiatry played a major role in the HOLOCAUST
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2008-05-14 14:29:53


Thank you. It is a tragedy. And this MEME or MEMES of psychiatry
are not stopping no matter what. Now that the Nazis are not even
considered by many people I fear a repeat within 20 years. It is
quite possibly true that the horror that Nazi psychiatry unleashed
on humanity was responsible for the earlier American atrocities
largely abating. But I wouldn't put it past modern Americans to
allow it to happen and say "duh aren't they just defective"
regarding psychiatric patients. The field of psychiatry is doing
absolutely nothing to properly educate the American people. They
are actively trying their best to indoctrinate people into believing
everything is hereditary genetic and best treated with drugs.

I fear it is coming back into popularity now that time has gone by
since what the Nazis did. It's horrible enough what they are still
doing to people in our country! And people appear to enjoy
committing atrocities. So I'm concerned. The world is sitting idle
as Darfur rages on. Psychiatric populations are always targeted
whether it be what is taking place now(which is a few steps up from
Nazi Germany) or intentional murder.

And they all keep acting and doing without thinking at all. The
psychiatrists that is. They just say in their defense when you
really challenge them "this is how I was trained". That's like
saying as a Nazi "I was only following orders".

***Even so I am somewhat optimistic that the field might change for
the better. If it doesn't we may be all affected. Many are
speculating that psychiatry is at a critical period where it will
either become much stronger or much much weaker. Many mental health
professionals notice what is taking place but they don't know what
to do. The forces against anyone who is opposed to psychiatry are
absolutely enormous.

And there is no sophistication to what they do. They merely
accidently discovered chemicals that impair people and drug them out
of their head.

What disgusts me most is that they keep doing it to people without
knowing really what they are doing or questioning it and most
importantly: THEY IGNORE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL CAUSES of peoples
suffering.

It is simplistic. It is tragic. And it is awful that this is what
the trend is now.

--- In imagestream%40yahoogroups.com">imagestreamyahoogroups.com, <winwenger...> wrote:
&gt;
> I do remember reading up on some of this a half
>; century ago. During the early 20th century, most
>; states routinely sterilized those whom they deemed
&gt; "defective" in mental health or in intelligence. It
> took the extreme excesses of the Nazis' brutal
&gt; practices to generate sufficient public repugnance in
> the western nations to move us into a different path.
> One might say that we "recoiled from our own shadow.&quot;
> - And it is clear that we have not moved nearly far
> enough along that different path. ...win
&gt;
> PS - incidentally folks, when we object to another's
> statements, there are cooler ways to do so than to
> castigate the other's character - or that of the list.
&gt; The past few months have been relatively courteous,
> which has given us some nice exchanges. Let's not slip
>; now. When there is something to quarrel about, let's
&gt; see how coolly and neatly we can handle it. Keep up
> the good work. ...win
>
> --- mentat8649 <mentat8649...> wrote:
&gt;
> >
> > Hitler himself was influenced by the work and
> > beliefs of eugenicists
> > and psychiatrists. This is an established fact.
> > His own "personal
> > bible"; was a book written by an American eugenicist.
> >
> >
> > Central to eugenics is the belief that any
> > psychological trait,
> > including traits we do not consider normal, are
> > purely a matter of
> > genetics. Any amount of trauma, abuse, etc has no
> > effect on the
> > mind according to eugenicists. Many psychiatrists
> > historically have
> > believed in eugenic theory. Several still do.
> >
> > ***Roughly 40 percent of German psychiatrists joined
&gt; > the Waffen SS
> > by 1933. The Waffen SS were Hitlers terror soldiers
> > responsible for
> > many of the atrocities against Jews and other
&gt; > "undesirables&quot;.
> >
> > ***Sad Fact: over 30 percent of American
> > Psychiatrists are Jewish in
> > ancestry while many of them have no religious faith
&gt; > at all according
> > to studies. This is was psychoanalysts call an
> > unconscious
> > identification with the Nazi aggressor.
> >
> > German psychiatry arguably played a major role in
> > the entirety of
> > the holocaust(according to Dr. Peter Breggin and
> > various others
> > professionals. www.breggin.com). German
&gt; > psychiatrists would
> > literally sit and watch people starved to death
&gt; > (psychiatric
> > patients) fed on "scientific"; diets in order to
> > ensure their
> > deaths. It is 100 percent confirmed that German
&gt; > psychiatry murdered
> > at least 200,000 psychiatric patients. German
&gt; > psychiatry was
> > actually put on trial at Nuremberg and various
> > medical professionals
> > concluded that the whole holocaust would never have
>; > happened without
> > psychiatry, according to Dr. Breggin and others
&gt; > (www.breggin.com).
> >
> > According to Dr. Ross, prior to World War II in the
> > United States
> > the psychiatric population was being ruthlessly
> > oppressed and
> > harmed. Did it solve anything? They believed it
> > would. Did it?
> > Not at all. The Nazis actually used what the
> > Americans were doing
> > to their psychiatric population as propaganda and
> > justification for
> > their murderous policies!
> >
> > While German psychiatry caused the deaths of 200,000
> > psychiatric
> > patients and arguably played a tremendous role in
> > the holocaust
> > itself(according to Dr.Peter Breggin and many other
&gt; > professionals),
> > ***AMERICAN psychiatry, SINCE 1950, has caused the
> > deaths of over
> > 1,000,000 human lives mostly because of accidental
> > overdosage on
> > older neuroleptic drugs. They have injured many
>; > more according to
> > other authorities particularly Dr. Peter Breggin.
> > And you know what
> > else? They still believe any mental problem is
> > mostly if not
> > entirely "hereditary genetic&quot; in cause. That is
> > what students
> > are "taught" in medical schools.
> >
> > Sad Fact: over 30 percent of American Psychiatrists
> > are Jewish.
> > This is was psychoanalysts call an unconscious
> > identification with
> > the Nazi aggressor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: psychiatry
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2008-05-14 14:47:13
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