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2.0.1 missing from people.apache.org?
user name
2006-10-30 16:27:02
On 10/27/06, Ted Husted <hustedapache.org> wrote:

> In the meantime, we've made the binaries available via
SoruceForge.
>
> * http://www.planetstruts.org/roller/page/news
?entry=struts_2_0_1_jars
>

Since people.apache.org is up, can we get the distribution
and
signatures put back in
  http://
people.apache.org/builds/struts/2.0.1/
so the links on the site will work?

At that point anyone who has time can work on getting it
mirrored, but
right now I think Ted is the only one who can provide all
the files.

Thanks,
Wendy

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Rant about bad IA practice.
user name
2006-10-30 15:23:07
Hi Alex,

Christina's responce wasnt a personal attack but the troll
thing, well without being overly defensive I've been part of
this group for a while and I was essentialy saying 'A sucks
- if I'm wrong tell me why'.  I have previously asked 'does
A' suck in this group for a couple of the things I mentioned
so my current views are partly baed upon the responces I got
then.  I've been dong this whole user experience stuff for
many many years and feel strongly about the things I brought
up and was sounding out the experiences of others. In
generaly there has been agreement and raising of good solid
things to consider. 

I'd rather be contraversial and correct in my approach than
be safe and wrong (not that I take this attituted with
clients I should add). 

So far it turns out that eye tracking is indeed snake oil
and should be exposed as such. Reasoning is that it leads to
bad bad conclustions.  See http://www.
useit.com/alertbox/video.html. This is an example where
data predictable without eye tracking  leads to incorrect
findings that a short trip to you tube disproves. If
someting doesnt work I think it only fair to air it in
groups like this, don't you?  And if I'm wrong then I'm sure
someone will tell me, or I hope so, view it as testing a
theory. 


Stewart


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> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:43:23 +1100
> From: alexander.johannesengmail.com
> To: msweenyspeakeasy.net
> CC: sigia-lasis.org
> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Rant about bad IA practice.
> 
> On 10/30/06, Marianne <msweenyspeakeasy.net> wrote:
> > I am hopeful that Christina's message below is
meant entirely in jest as the
> > Monty Python quote would suggest. It would cause
me great dismay to think
> > that that she is implying that alternative
philosophies and opinions are not
> > encouraged on the SIGIA list.
> 
> Ah. Now, this is a tricky situation, because there's
something else we
> don't like either, which is trolling. I certainly don't
want trolls
> around, and sometimes using ridicule and humour is a
good way to flush
> them out and remind others to ignore the bait.
> 
> The OP certainly had an air of troll about him; jump
into a community
> with a list of negatives about what that community do,
and then watch.
> And why phrase it as a truism "A sucks"
instead of a question "does A
> suck?" For no other reason than to stir things up.
Now, one thing is
> to stir things up to the point of fruitful debate; the
other is to
> stir only to stir. The debate is still open on that
one. I say troll,
> or at least a goblin.
> 
> >  I've always believed this to be a community of
> > open discourse and not oligarchy where thoughts
and methods are prescribed
> > by the few.
> 
> No, this really is a community of people who can't let
go. 
> 
> 
> Alex
> -- 
> "Ultimately, all things are known because you want
to believe you know."
>                                                        
 - Frank Herbert
> __ http://shelter.nu/
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