#1197 Re: ISSUES How IP is input and Intent...

The point is we need a formal statement from the Lawyer's
that this process
works and is sufficient. And if they WILL NOT PRODUCE THAT
STATEMENT then
this system and its processes are broken.

This is very black-and-white

Todd Glassey
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Josefsson" <jasextundo.com>
To: "Harald Tveit Alvestrand" <haraldalvestrand.no>
Cc: "todd glassey" <todd.glasseyatt.net>; <ipr-wgietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: #1197 Re: ISSUES How IP is input and Intent...


> Harald Tveit Alvestrand <haraldalvestrand.no> writes:
>
> > --On 10. februar 2006 07:53 -0800 todd glassey
> > <todd.glasseyworldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> How about
> >>
> >> 1 ) How IP is input and how the intent of the
individual entrusting the
> >> IETF with the IP figures into any asignements.
> >
> > Filed as #1197. I believe Scott Bradner's draft
is intended to address
> > the mechanism for assgning or licensing IPR to the
IETF.
>
> I agree that Scott's mechanism sufficiently solve this
issue.
>
> There is a problem if the IETF would had to stand up in
court to
> defend ownership of an RFC.  The contributors have not
signed a
> copyright disclaimer, so the IETF would have to spend
time explaining
> that they actually own the copyright on the published
documents.  If
> the contributor would have signed papers transferring
the copyright,
> there would be less cause for confusion.
>
> However, I don't see the IETF caring enough about this
principle.
> There is a tradition of ignoring copyright
infringements (witness the
> Sun getadddrinfo example).  It doesn't seem to be in
the interests of
> the IETF to defend its copyright license on documents
strongly.  The
> IETF doesn't seem to have little to gain from causing
problems for
> anyone re-using IETF documents against the RFC 3978
license.  Btw,
> this also argue for selecting a permissive license.
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
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