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FYI - Legal Definition of a Derivative Work - per Copyright
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2006-01-17 19:09:29
Jorge it does get Patent Disclosure though so it is involved
in the patent
rights of those submitting works through it or otherwise.

t.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Contreras, Jorge" <Jorge.Contreraswilmerhale.com>
To: "Harald Tveit Alvestrand" <haraldalvestrand.no>; "todd glassey"
<todd.glasseyatt.net>; <ipr-wgietf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: FYI - Legal Definition of a Derivative Work -
per Copyright


Generally, implementing a standard in hardware
would not infringe the copyright in the standard
unless the standard includes code (like MIB modules)
that is required to for implementation.  The
current IPR policy addresses extraction of such
code.  There is an ongoing debate regarding the
modification of such code.

Patents, of course, can be infringed by implementations,
but IETF does not get any patent licenses or
rights from contributors.

-----Original Message-----
From: ipr-wg-bouncesietf.org [mailto:ipr-wg-bouncesietf.org]On Behalf
Of Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:54 PM
To: todd glassey; ipr-wgietf.org
Subject: Re: FYI - Legal Definition of a Derivative Work -
per Copyright




--On tirsdag, januar 17, 2006 09:41:23 -0800 todd glassey
<todd.glasseyworldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Steve asked for some legal precedent... here is some
background reading to
> do

Todd,

Steve asked for a legal precedent for your claim that a
second
implementation of a protocol constitutes a derivative work -
in your words:
"the IETF's
Standards Process MANDATES a second Interoperable Protocol
be built by one
of the parties involved in the Initiative... and without the
Derviative
Rights no one can legally claim that they have the right to
implement that
instance of that protocol".

Nothing you have produced so far gives any indication that
there's
competent legal advice that this is the case.

Please - put up or shut up.

                     Harald

>
> The Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C. § 101 defines a derivative
work as follows:
>
> ...a work based upon one or more preexisting works such
as a translation,
> musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization,
motion picture
> version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment,
condensation or
> any other form in which a work may be recast,
transformed, or adapted. A
> work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations,
elaborations, or
> other modifications which, as a whole, represent an
original work of
> authorship is a "derivative work.
>
> Also pay attention to something called FIRST SALE
DOCTERINE. Its a
> relevent factor as well.





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