#1273 How do we usefully define "excerpt"?

---- Original Message -----
From: "Brian E Carpenter" <brczurich.ibm.com>
To: "Harald Alvestrand" <haraldalvestrand.no>
Cc: <ipr-wgietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: #1273 How do we usefully define
"excerpt"?


> ...
> > - Simon Josefsson asks what modifications are
permitted to an excerpts
> > that would allow it to be still considered
"verbatim". Examples of "it
> > seems reasonable to allow" are:
> >
> > * remove page breaks
> >
> > * re-flow the text to fit a particular column
width
> >
> > * add text to fit a particular circumstance.  For
example, it is often
> >  useful to quote an RFC in a C++ source comment,
which for longer
> >  quotes typically require that you prefix each
line with '//'.
>
> Also: use multiple fonts for clarity
>
> >
> > There are other examples that are less clear,
including:
> >
> > * Incorporating errata
>
> Opinion: OK if they are already posted by the RFC
Editor.
> If discovered by the publisher, they should not be
> incorporated; they should be described separately.
>
> > * Fix spelling typos
>
> Opinion: OK, as is translation from English
>
Disagree, your fixing a typo is my change of meaning; even a
change of
punctuation can change the meaning.  If Simon wants to do
this, he should do it
outside the quoted excerpt making clear he is the author of
the change and
responsible for any resulting change..

Tom Petch


> > * Improve ASCII art by replacing it with a real
drawing
>
> Opinion: dangerous. Should be labelled as
"redrawn by [the publisher]"
>
> >
> > John Klensin has raised another concern:
> >
> > "I'm prepared to lose this one, although,
if I do, I'm going to
> > press strongly for copyright transfers to the IETF
so the policy
> > can be administered ("why that is
relevant" is probably a
> > different thread, but hinges on when an excerpt
isn't "just" an
> > excerpt)."
>
> I'm not sure. If we get the right to allow derivative
works by 3rd parties,
> why would we need this?
>
>     Brian
>
>
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