Scott
The IETF in publishing these documents needs no rights, it
owns them
outright per the submission constraints. It can post them on
its site with
the statement "(C) 2006 the IETF - All rights
reserved" Anything that is a
part of the IETF's use and vetting model is covered under
that. So any
internal use to the IETF needs no license per se.
Wow - no license needed for internal use... hows that for a
shocker... So
then who needs licenses and why?
The only entities that need licenses are people not
connected with the
IETF's processes who want to or need to republish these
document for use
outside the IETF's processes. The problem is that it is
this use outside the
IETF's processes that deminishes the value and control of
any of the IETF's
IP's. So my question to this august group is who are those
people and why
would they republish or excerpt I-D's? for what purpose?
There is a formal statement and concept with the IETF that
ID's are not
supposed to be referenced, and if that is really true and
not just some
paste-on language to placate people, then it seems
reasonable that any
license statement's would need to reflect that. i.e. that
this IETF should
actually take some steps to implement that policy a needed.
That being the
limiting of the I-D's republication releases to being for
the IETF's use
only.
As to my closing commentary - It seems to me that the sole
use of I-D's is
the formal introduction of Intellectual Property to the
IETF. Whether it's
part of a new or ongoing effort doesnt matter, its the
Ceremony that is used
to Wake the Oracle of the IETF to take notice of
something"...
That said can anyone add other uses that dont ultimately
boil down to
introducing IP to the IETF's process?
Todd Glassey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott W Brim" <sbrim cisco.com>
To: "Harald Alvestrand" <haraldalvestrand.no>
Cc: "todd glassey" <todd.glasseyatt.net>; <ipr-wgietf.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Internet Draft Description - New Language?
> On 05/20/2006 11:11 AM, Harald Alvestrand allegedly
wrote:
> > Your understanding of what I-Ds are departs
considerably from what they
> > are used as in the IETF.
> >
> > Some I-Ds are introduction documents. Most are
not.
>
> And even if only temporary they are
"published"
>
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