RFC Author Count and IPR

On Wed, 24 May 2006, Bob Braden wrote:

>
>
>  *>
>  *> Bob -
>  *>
>  *> Following Jari's link to the document (ID) with
20 authors I found:
>  *>
>  *> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draf
t-ietf-pwe3-dynamic-ms-pw-00.txt
>  *>
>  *> which lists 3 editors on the front page and
includes a section (17)
>  *> titled "Author Information" which
includes 20 addresses.
>
> Lucy,
>
> You are suggesting that the definition of
"author" is determined by some
> tool that produces the pretty graph.  I don't think
so.  In all
> documentation related to the RFC Editor, an author is a
person listed
> on the first page.  I cannot explain what was in the
mind of the
> person writing the tool.

Bob -

This is exactly the question I'm trying to get clarity on.
Russ's
initial email implied that there may be a submerged IPR
issue if
we limit the number of authors listed on the front page AND
hold that
document "authors" continue to hold IP rights. I
don't know enough
about the history of IP ownership vs acknowledged authorship
to be
able to tell how serious an issue this may be.

Let me try re-stating my question. Is there a one-to-one
relationship 
between the listed authors on an IETF document and ownership
of the
given document's Intellectual Property?

- lel


> Bob Braden
>

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Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
> Let me try re-stating my question. Is there a
one-to-one relationship 
> between the listed authors on an IETF document and
ownership of the
> given document's Intellectual Property? 
I can answer that one...

No.


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On Thu, 25 May 2006, Harald Alvestrand wrote:

> Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
>> Let me try re-stating my question. Is there a
one-to-one relationship 
>> between the listed authors on an IETF document and
ownership of the
>> given document's Intellectual Property? 
> I can answer that one...
>
> No.


Thank you!

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On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 06:42:06AM -0700, Lucy E. Lynch
wrote:
> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> 
> >Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
> >>Let me try re-stating my question. Is there a
one-to-one relationship 
> >>between the listed authors on an IETF document
and ownership of the
> >>given document's Intellectual Property? 
> >I can answer that one...
> >
> >No.
> 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Lucy E. Lynch 				Academic User Services

	not knowing Harolds legal background or current standing w/
	the ABA, (or EU equivalent) I think that Bob's
recommendation
	on getting actual legal advice on your question puts you
and
	the organziation represented (IETF) on much better
grounding
	than a simple; "I can answer that... no" on an
email list.

	just my (uninformed) opinion.

--bill

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On Thu, 25 May 2006, bmanningvacation.karoshi.com wrote:

> On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 06:42:06AM -0700, Lucy E. Lynch
wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>>
>>> Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
>>>> Let me try re-stating my question. Is there
a one-to-one relationship
>>>> between the listed authors on an IETF
document and ownership of the
>>>> given document's Intellectual Property?
>>> I can answer that one...
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Lucy E. Lynch 				Academic User Services
>
> 	not knowing Harolds legal background or current
standing w/
> 	the ABA, (or EU equivalent) I think that Bob's
recommendation
> 	on getting actual legal advice on your question puts
you and
> 	the organziation represented (IETF) on much better
grounding
> 	than a simple; "I can answer that... no"
on an email list.
>
> 	just my (uninformed) opinion.

Bill -

Understood, as I say, I'm just trying to get a handle the
range of 
community opinion(s) and the scope of the problem. This
issue
cuts across TechSpec, the IPR WG, the RFC-Editor's office,
and
the IETF Trust (as well as individual authors etc.).
Everyone sees 
this slightly differently. Before we ask for advise, I'd
like to 
understand the problem set.

> --bill
>

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