Jabber.org server

Good evening, gentle creatures,

I've noticed the jabber.org server isn't very reliable and
likes to go
down for long periods of time randomly.  This is somewhat
annoying to
those of us using it, and poses significant problems when
trying to get
people to try jabber.  It's the natural choice for a
first-time user to
want to sign up with, and having it go down on a regularly
irregular
basis makes them mentally equate Jabber with reliability
problems.

So, my question is, what's wrong with it, and is there
anything at all
that we in the community can do to try and fix it?  If it's
a hardware
issue, can we try to get donations together to buy a better
machine with
more memory or drive space?  Is it a problem with the
ejabberd server
software itself not being able to handle the load?  Or is
there any
volunteer work that people could help out with that would
improve
matters?

Thank you very much.
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On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 12:16:52PM -0400, Adam C. Emerson
wrote:
> Good evening, gentle creatures,

Sorry for the delayed reply, I was offline last week.

> I've noticed the jabber.org server isn't very reliable
and likes to go
> down for long periods of time randomly.  This is
somewhat annoying to
> those of us using it, and poses significant problems
when trying to get
> people to try jabber.  It's the natural choice for a
first-time user to
> want to sign up with, and having it go down on a
regularly irregular
> basis makes them mentally equate Jabber with
reliability problems.
> 
> So, my question is, what's wrong with it, and is there
anything at all
> that we in the community can do to try and fix it?  If
it's a hardware
> issue, can we try to get donations together to buy a
better machine with
> more memory or drive space?  Is it a problem with the
ejabberd server
> software itself not being able to handle the load?  Or
is there any
> volunteer work that people could help out with that
would improve
> matters?

It appears that the jabber.org IM service was under attack
last week. I 
will post a more detailed report once I have the details.

A new server machine would help. The XMPP Standards
Foundation (which
hosts the jabber.org infrastructure) has the money to
purchase one (or
two if we decide to cluster ejabberd) and just needs to get
organized
about deciding on hardware.

> Thank you very much.

Thanks for your interest.

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/

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Hello,
i want not open a new discussion about the same topic.

Some other things goes wrong with the jabber.org server too,
or is this
a protocoll issue?

When the server jabber.org goes down and restart, it seems
to me that
he  lost the connection to the jabber network and don't
reconnect
properly too.
Login server: Jabber.org, I can access the service list and
the
chatrooms.

Login server: jabbus.org, I can't access ther service list
or the
chatrooms. My first thought was that was an jabbus.org
issue, because I
have report this earlier to the jabbus.org admin, he restart
his
server, and it worked fine after this.
But I am not sure about this in the meantime, because
yesterday the
same happens again, jabber.org shut down, for some time an
restart. I
can now access the service list from many other servers and
join
chatrooms, except for the jabber.org server. Therefore I
think either
something is wrong in the jabber.org server config or this
is a general
protocol issue.

Peter



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On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:18:01PM +0200, Peter Flindt
wrote:
> Hello,
> i want not open a new discussion about the same topic.
> 
> Some other things goes wrong with the jabber.org server
too, or is this
> a protocoll issue?
> 
> When the server jabber.org goes down and restart, it
seems to me that
> he  lost the connection to the jabber network and don't
reconnect
> properly too.

Does this always happen? We had some s2s issues last week,
but in
general this should not be a problem.

Have you tested this with servers other than jabbus.org?

Also what client do you use?

> Login server: Jabber.org, I can access the service list
and the
> chatrooms.
> 
> Login server: jabbus.org, I can't access ther service
list or the
> chatrooms. My first thought was that was an jabbus.org
issue, because I
> have report this earlier to the jabbus.org admin, he
restart his
> server, and it worked fine after this.
> But I am not sure about this in the meantime, because
yesterday the
> same happens again, jabber.org shut down, for some time
an restart. I
> can now access the service list from many other servers
and join
> chatrooms, except for the jabber.org server. Therefore
I think either
> something is wrong in the jabber.org server config or
this is a general
> protocol issue.

I'm not sure. Further debugging seems necessary. Feel free
to ping me
via IM so we can test this together.

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre wrote :
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:18:01PM +0200, Peter Flindt
wrote:
>> Hello,
>> i want not open a new discussion about the same
topic.
>> 
>> Some other things goes wrong with the jabber.org
server too, or is this
>> a protocoll issue?
>> 
>> When the server jabber.org goes down and restart,
it seems to me that
>> he  lost the connection to the jabber network and
don't reconnect
>> properly too.

> Does this always happen? We had some s2s issues last
week, but in
> general this should not be a problem.

> Have you tested this with servers other than
jabbus.org?

I can access with jabbus.org as login server, the
servicelist and
chatrooms from jabbim.com, jabber.se, jabberworld.org. But
not from
Jabber.org.


> Also what client do you use?

Tested Miranda 0.7.1 and PSI 0.12-dev-rev1,
XML Ouput on both clients:
<presence to="jabberconference.jabber.org/Lastwebpage " >
<priority>5</priority>
<c xmlns="http://jabber.o
rg/protocol/caps"
node="http://psi-im.org/caps&q
uot; ver="0.12-dev-rev1" ext="cs
ep-notify
html" />
<x xmlns="http://jabb
er.org/protocol/muc"/>
</presence>
No more, tehe wait forever for a response.

Peter



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