Unable to remove roster item

Hi,

I've got a transport on my roster that is no longer active /
running
that I cannot remove. I've tried removing it with PSI,
Miranda, and
the Jabber Roster Utility (which did not work for me at
all). This is
the XML for the transport that I get when querying my
roster:

<query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
<item ask="subscribe"
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="from" />
</query>

Does it mean that the subscription is pending, and of course
will
never finish as the transport is offline? Is that the reason
why I
cannot remove it? Any hints how to remive it?

Thanks.

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 01:55:39PM +0200, Sebastian
Schuberth wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've got a transport on my roster that is no longer
active / running
> that I cannot remove. I've tried removing it with PSI,
Miranda, and
> the Jabber Roster Utility (which did not work for me at
all). This is
> the XML for the transport that I get when querying my
roster:
> 
> <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
> <item ask="subscribe"
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="from" />
> </query>
> 
> Does it mean that the subscription is pending, and of
course will
> never finish as the transport is offline? Is that the
reason why I
> cannot remove it? Any hints how to remive it?

You can remove a roster item even if the subscription is
pending or the
item is no longer available on the network.

What happens if you send the following XML at the console?

<iq type="set" id="foo">
 <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
   <item jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="remove" />
  </query>
</iq>

Peter

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> > Hi,
> >
> > I've got a transport on my roster that is no
longer active / running
> > that I cannot remove. I've tried removing it with
PSI, Miranda, and
> > the Jabber Roster Utility (which did not work for
me at all). This is
> > the XML for the transport that I get when querying
my roster:
> >
> > <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
> > <item ask="subscribe"
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="from" />
> > </query>
> >
> > Does it mean that the subscription is pending, and
of course will
> > never finish as the transport is offline? Is that
the reason why I
> > cannot remove it? Any hints how to remive it?
>
> You can remove a roster item even if the subscription
is pending or the
> item is no longer available on the network.
>
> What happens if you send the following XML at the
console?
>
> <iq type="set" id="foo">
>  <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
>    <item
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="remove" />
>   </query>
> </iq>

Thanks for your answer. Unfortunately, that did not seem to
help. Here
is what I sent and the server responses from Miranda's XML
console
(for the last server response to happen, I downloaded my
roster):

<iq type="set" id="foo">
    <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
        <item
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="remove" />
    </query>
</iq>
­
<iq from="<user>jabber.com/Work"
id="foo" to="<user>jabber.com/Work"
type="result" xml:lang="en" />
­
<iq type="get" id="mir_7">
    <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster" />
</iq>
­
<iq from="<user>jabber.com/Work"
id="mir_7" type="result"
xml:lang="en">
    <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
        <item ask="subscribe"
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="from" />
    </query>
</iq>

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On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:25:51AM +0200, Sebastian
Schuberth wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've got a transport on my roster that is no
longer active / running
> > > that I cannot remove. I've tried removing it
with PSI, Miranda, and
> > > the Jabber Roster Utility (which did not work
for me at all). This is
> > > the XML for the transport that I get when
querying my roster:
> > >
> > > <query
xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
> > > <item ask="subscribe"
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="from" />
> > > </query>
> > >
> > > Does it mean that the subscription is
pending, and of course will
> > > never finish as the transport is offline? Is
that the reason why I
> > > cannot remove it? Any hints how to remive
it?
> >
> > You can remove a roster item even if the
subscription is pending or the
> > item is no longer available on the network.
> >
> > What happens if you send the following XML at the
console?
> >
> > <iq type="set"
id="foo">
> >  <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
> >    <item
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="remove" />
> >   </query>
> > </iq>
> 
> Thanks for your answer. Unfortunately, that did not
seem to help. Here
> is what I sent and the server responses from Miranda's
XML console
> (for the last server response to happen, I downloaded
my roster):
> 
> <iq type="set" id="foo">
>     <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
>         <item
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
subscription="remove" />
>     </query>
> </iq>
> ??
> <iq from="<user>jabber.com/Work"
id="foo" to="<user>jabber.com/Work"
> type="result" xml:lang="en" />
> ??
> <iq type="get" id="mir_7">
>     <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster" />
> </iq>
> ??
> <iq from="<user>jabber.com/Work"
id="mir_7" type="result"
xml:lang="en">
>     <query xmlns="jabber:iq:roster">
>         <item ask="subscribe"
jid="icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"
> subscription="from" />
>     </query>
> </iq>

Hmm, OK, thanks for trying -- you should never have to send
raw XML
anyway, but sometimes that's the only way to fix things.

What happens if you try to remove
"icq.jabber.ccc.de" instead of
"icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"?

This *may* be a problem on the server you're using, or it
may be that
the item is cached in the client somehow. In the end you
could contact
your server administrator about it -- I know that on
jabber.org I can
execute a database query to remove such items (and I've been
forced to
do that in the past).

Peter

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> Hmm, OK, thanks for trying -- you should never have to
send raw XML
> anyway, but sometimes that's the only way to fix
things.
>
> What happens if you try to remove
"icq.jabber.ccc.de" instead of
> "icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"?

Yeah, I was hoping that doing it the "raw way"
would finally do the
trick, but it doesn't. Omitting "/registered" also
did not help :-/

BTW, I can see the XML Miranda is sending to the server when
trying to
delete the roster item from the GUI. It send the same XML
that you
were suggesting, so it does not seem to be a client
problem.

> This *may* be a problem on the server you're using, or
it may be that
> the item is cached in the client somehow. In the end
you could contact

I can see the XML Miranda is sending to query the roster, so
I doubt
it's caches. An when I installed and tried PSI, it also
showed that
particular transport in the roster.

> your server administrator about it -- I know that on
jabber.org I can
> execute a database query to remove such items (and I've
been forced to
> do that in the past).

Any hint who to talk to for the jabber.com server?

BTW, is there a clean way to migrate one's Jabber profile
from one
server to another, e.g. from jabber.com to jabber.org (so
that no
traces are left on jabber.com)?

-- 
Sebastian Schuberth
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 05:28:56PM +0200, Sebastian
Schuberth wrote:
> > Hmm, OK, thanks for trying -- you should never
have to send raw XML
> > anyway, but sometimes that's the only way to fix
things.
> >
> > What happens if you try to remove
"icq.jabber.ccc.de" instead of
> > "icq.jabber.ccc.de/registered"?
> 
> Yeah, I was hoping that doing it the "raw
way" would finally do the
> trick, but it doesn't. Omitting "/registered"
also did not help :-/
> 
> BTW, I can see the XML Miranda is sending to the server
when trying to
> delete the roster item from the GUI. It send the same
XML that you
> were suggesting, so it does not seem to be a client
problem.
> 
> > This *may* be a problem on the server you're
using, or it may be that
> > the item is cached in the client somehow. In the
end you could contact
> 
> I can see the XML Miranda is sending to query the
roster, so I doubt
> it's caches. An when I installed and tried PSI, it also
showed that
> particular transport in the roster.
> 
> > your server administrator about it -- I know that
on jabber.org I can
> > execute a database query to remove such items (and
I've been forced to
> > do that in the past).
> 
> Any hint who to talk to for the jabber.com server?

mailto:supportjabber.org

> BTW, is there a clean way to migrate one's Jabber
profile from one
> server to another, e.g. from jabber.com to jabber.org
(so that no
> traces are left on jabber.com)?

Not really. It's always a messy process. But perhaps someone
on the list
has suggestions (I know that there used to be a tool for
this but I
don't know how good it was, but I've used the same jabber
account since
1999 so I'm not interested in switching). 

/psa

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> > > your server administrator about it -- I know
that on jabber.org I can
> > > execute a database query to remove such items
(and I've been forced to
> > > do that in the past).
> >
> > Any hint who to talk to for the jabber.com
server?
>
> mailto:supportjabber.org

For that address I'm getting:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    supportjabber.org

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 13): 550 5.1.1
<supportjabber.org>:
Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient
table

And in case you meant mailto:supportjabber.com, I'vealso mailed
them,
but these guys only give commercial support to guys with a
commercial
support account as it seems.

> > BTW, is there a clean way to migrate one's Jabber
profile from one
> > server to another, e.g. from jabber.com to
jabber.org (so that no
> > traces are left on jabber.com)?
>
> Not really. It's always a messy process. But perhaps
someone on the list
> has suggestions (I know that there used to be a tool
for this but I
> don't know how good it was, but I've used the same
jabber account since
> 1999 so I'm not interested in switching). 

So I guess I'll create a new account on jabber.org, copy my
roster
there and try to make them delete my account on jabber.com.

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Sebastian Schuberth
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