jingle + encryption + free software?

Hi,

I am currently looking for a new jabber client.

jingle + encryption + free software

has this any client been implemented yet?
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Michael Reichenbach wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am currently looking for a new jabber client.
> 
> jingle + encryption + free software
> 
> has this any client been implemented yet?

Maybe Coccinella? Psi has Jingle support somewhere in SVN
but not in a 
released version.

Also, what do you mean by "encryption"?

Peter

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Hi, thanks for reading.

Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 > Maybe Coccinella?
Afaik there is no encryption for jingle.

 > Also, what do you mean by "encryption"?
I mean like:
- SSL for Client to Server
- OTR for end to end encryption for secure and authenticated
1 to 1 chats
- or OpenPGP for mails

Over insecure networks a man in the middle can log all the
traffic, but 
I don`t want him to be able to intercept any calls.
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Michael Reichenbach wrote:
> Hi, thanks for reading.
> 
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>  > Maybe Coccinella?
> Afaik there is no encryption for jingle.

You want encryption of the signalling/negotiation or
encryption of the 
media traffic or both? I assume both. 

>  > Also, what do you mean by
"encryption"?
> I mean like:
> - SSL for Client to Server

All the clients do that.

> - OTR for end to end encryption for secure and
authenticated 1 to 1 chats

That doesn't all traffic (which you need to encrypt the
Jingle 
signalling exchanges), only message body text.

> - or OpenPGP for mails

That doesn't encrypt all traffic either, just message body
text.

> Over insecure networks a man in the middle can log all
the traffic, but 
> I don`t want him to be able to intercept any calls.

Correct. That's why we are working on an end-to-end
encryption 
technology that encrypts the entire packet. It's called
encrypted 
sessions. It should be supported in Gajim (not sure if that
code has 
been released yet).

Peter

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Hallöchen!

Peter Saint-Andre writes:

> Michael Reichenbach wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> Over insecure networks a man in the middle can log
all the
>> traffic, but I don`t want him to be able to
intercept any calls.
>
> Correct. That's why we are working on an end-to-end
encryption
> technology that encrypts the entire packet. It's called
encrypted
> sessions. It should be supported in Gajim (not sure if
that code
> has been released yet).

We have E2E encryption in the released Gajim but I don't
know
whether it is the "correct" variant.  I thought
that the current way
of E2E is more or less provisional and the XMPP community
still has
to settle on a standard.

Tschö,
Torsten.

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Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Hallöchen!
> 
> Peter Saint-Andre writes:
> 
>> Michael Reichenbach wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Over insecure networks a man in the middle can
log all the
>>> traffic, but I don`t want him to be able to
intercept any calls.
>> Correct. That's why we are working on an end-to-end
encryption
>> technology that encrypts the entire packet. It's
called encrypted
>> sessions. It should be supported in Gajim (not sure
if that code
>> has been released yet).
> 
> We have E2E encryption in the released Gajim but I
don't know
> whether it is the "correct" variant.  I
thought that the current way
> of E2E is more or less provisional and the XMPP
community still has
> to settle on a standard.

That's true. I'm hard at work on Jingle right now, but after
I finish 
that I'll look into e2e encryption again (we would like to
investigate 
the possibility of using application-layer TLS etc. -- it's
a long 
story, join the standardsxmpp.org list if you're
interested in 
discussing it...).

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> You want encryption of the signalling/negotiation or
encryption of the 
> media traffic or both? I assume both. 
Well, I think the server will always know who is
communicating with who. 
  I don`t think it`s "cool", but this can not be
stopped. But I 
appreciate  that most servers support SSL and _only_ the
server knows 
who is communicating with who.

The more important thing is encryption of the media traffic.
That was 
the main point of asking here.

I guess, currently there is no such client?


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