Re: Web interface

On 1/2/08, Luke -Jr <lukedashjr.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Alexander Gnauck wrote:
> > Jabber is the name of the technology. Jabber is to
XMPP like the Web is
> > to HTTP.
> I agree with your analogy, but disagree that either
"Jabber" or "Web" are
> technologies. Just as there are things like XML-RPC
that use HTTP for
> non-"Web", there are things like Google Talk
that use XMPP. "Jabber" is more
> of a generic standards-compliant IM service name,
usually ignored when there
> is a more specific branding.

  Historically, before there was XMPP, it was simply
'Jabber', and the
'Jabber Protocol'.  XMPP was created to differentiate the
protocol
from Jabber.com, and the potential issues surrounding
possible
tradmarks on the use of the term 'Jabber' as a product. 
XMPP also
does a much better job at describing the protocol in use. 
Technically
speaking, 'XMPP' evolved out of the original etherx and
jabberbox
protocols.

  'Web' is a laymans term for HTTP transporting HTML.  I'd
personally
say that Jabber is also a laymans term for the use of the
XMPP
protocol, and the use of XMPP servers.

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On Wednesday 02 January 2008 20:17:38 Thomas Charron wrote:
>   'Web' is a laymans term for HTTP transporting HTML. 
I'd personally
> say that Jabber is also a laymans term for the use of
the XMPP
> protocol, and the use of XMPP servers.

Very (very) vaguely related to this, how do people advertise
their
XMPP address? My signature (see below) mentions "IM
(Jabber)", since
I figure more people will know what that means than XMPP.

In the past, I've used various combinations of IM, Jabber,
GTalk
and XMPP to identify that my email address is also an IM
address,
but is there a recommended way of identifying it as such?
I've
never seen people like Google (do any other popular services
use
XMPP for public use?) actually identify their service as
being
XMPP outside of technical descriptions, so I doubt the term
is
widely recognised even by those who might use it. So though
XMPP
may be the technically correct term, is it an ideal one?

Looking at recent emails on this list, I can only see one
other
person (Tomasz Sterna) who even mentions IM in their
signature,
and he lists it as XMPP.

So, assuming you weren't worried about privacy, what
terminology
would people recommend?

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Sam.                        Mail/IM (Jabber): samglendale.org.uk 
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