Re: Web interface

Well, what a nice discussion!

Norman Rasmussen schrieb:

> On Jan 3, 2008 10:20 AM, Tomasz Sterna < tomekxiaoka.com">tomekxiaoka.com

> <mailto: tomekxiaoka.com">tomekxiaoka.com>> wrote:
>;
>  On ¦r, 2008-01-02 at 22:15 +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote:
>;  > Saying you're running jabberd is like saying you're running httpd.
&gt;
>  There is no project named 'httpd' that I know of, and at least two
>  projects named 'jabberd'.
&gt;
>
>; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Httpd lists 9 httpd servers.

Wikipedia is evil!

> The Fedora Project like to call their web server httpd. (I think it's
&gt; really apache)

Actually I would call "httpd" a technologie or - at least - a group or
categorie of software.

I used to call the webserver from the apache project "apache", too, but
I'm not sure wheter this is really true. If you direct your browser
www.apache.org you will find a lot of software there, but not only the
webserver, even when you download it, you won't get a directory called
&quot;apache&quot; - no, it is "httpd". (even the project homepage is
httpd.apache.org)

Beside this fact, everyone might understand you, whenever you write
&quot;apache&quot; and even most of use would asume "apache httpd"; when you write
&quot;httpd&quot; - but that is only a question of language and/or conventions
about "what everyone does" - searching the internet is NOT "googleing"
(I had some days ago a customer who did not find his new domains,
because he entered everything into google, not his addressbar - so
surfing is not googleing either ^^)

I switched over to say "apache httpd"; - just to be clear that no one
thinks I'm speaking of this java-thing called "tomcat". Somethimes -
just to sound cool - I also say "der Indianer&quot; (german, "the indian&quot;),
but that is nothing else than saying "googleing"

Although some of us use protable languages this isn't really portable to
the jabber/xmpp-world, because we have no project with such dominance as
the apache webserver or google have.
Most (popular) projects carry jabberd in their names - two of them only
add a version-number, which is quite bad for newbies.
For example: I would assume jabbder1.x whenever someone says "jabberd"
and only jabberd2.x (no idea about .0 or .1 ) if the guy (or the
girl) wrote jabberd2.

All we can do is being aware of that and keep asking, maybe sometimes
replying "RTFM!". But please: Don't start such discussion  

I remember a time when there was a nice comparison chart for open source
implementations at jabber.org... What about refering to this? Or maybe
someone (well, not me!) could write a short (!) guide about "How to ask
a question about a jabber-deamon".


Regards,

 (a happy) Bernd

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i installd my jabberd server

apt-get install jabber

but how to access web interface

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Ämne: Re: [jadmin] Web interface

Dear All,

I have installed jabber chat server on my linux desktop,it is working fine & during installation,jabber menu will ask you if you wanna use Web interface.

It's very easy to setup web interface. & by the way,every web interface must have http protocol.

On Jan 3, 2008 3:12 PM, Bernd Holzmüller < tiggertiggerswelt.net" target="_blank">tiggertiggerswelt.net> wrote:

Well, what a nice discussion!

Norman Rasmussen schrieb:

> On Jan 3, 2008 10:20 AM, Tomasz Sterna < tomekxiaoka.com" target="_blank">tomekxiaoka.com

> <mailto: tomekxiaoka.com" target="_blank">tomekxiaoka.com>> wrote:
>;
>  On Úr, 2008-01-02 at 22:15 +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote:
>;  > Saying you're running jabberd is like saying you're running httpd.
>
>  There is no project named 'httpd' that I know of, and at least two
>  projects named 'jabberd'.
&gt;
>
>; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Httpd lists 9 httpd servers.

Wikipedia is evil!

> The Fedora Project like to call their web server httpd. (I think it's
&gt; really apache)

Actually I would call "httpd" a technologie or - at least - a group or
categorie of software.

I used to call the webserver from the apache project "apache", too, but
I'm not sure wheter this is really true. If you direct your browser
www.apache.org you will find a lot of software there, but not only the
webserver, even when you download it, you won't get a directory called
&quot;apache&quot; - no, it is "httpd". (even the project homepage is
httpd.apache.org)

Beside this fact, everyone might understand you, whenever you write
&quot;apache&quot; and even most of use would asume "apache httpd"; when you write
"httpd" - but that is only a question of language and/or conventions
about "what everyone does" - searching the internet is NOT "googleing"
(I had some days ago a customer who did not find his new domains,
because he entered everything into google, not his addressbar - so
surfing is not googleing either ^^)

I switched over to say "apache httpd"; - just to be clear that no one
thinks I'm speaking of this java-thing called "tomcat". Somethimes -
just to sound cool - I also say "der Indianer&quot; (german, "the indian&quot;),
but that is nothing else than saying "googleing"

Although some of us use protable languages this isn't really portable to
the jabber/xmpp-world, because we have no project with such dominance as
the apache webserver or google have.
Most (popular) projects carry jabberd in their names - two of them only
add a version-number, which is quite bad for newbies.
For example: I would assume jabbder1.x whenever someone says "jabberd"
and only jabberd2.x (no idea about .0 or .1 ) if the guy (or the
girl) wrote jabberd2.

All we can do is being aware of that and keep asking, maybe sometimes
replying "RTFM!". But please: Don't start such discussion  

I remember a time when there was a nice comparison chart for open source
implementations at jabber.org... What about refering to this? Or maybe
someone (well, not me!) could write a short (!) guide about "How to ask
a question about a jabber-deamon".


Regards,

 (a happy) Bernd

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